You know Bryan, a good amount of people on this list have invested their careers in Cold Fusion. The futures of their families come back to MM. I think CF Developers have every right to be critical of MM, as I think everyone should be critical of their financial future.
Sadly, many people who trusted in corporations have seen their savings & retirement disappear. I don't mean to get all mellow-dramatic, but this discussion is extremely healthy and benefits the developers. Personally, I have better things to worry about than if I'm making an a$$ of myself. Seriously, when you stop asking questions, you're giving over control. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan@;electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Nope..I think it's here to stay. That said, if the community continues to slam the company so hard mabye they'll just drop CF out of spite!! Everyone on this list (with a few exceptions) does NOT have all the pieces of the puzzle. If you don't know the whole story, ask about the parts you're missing of just stay quiet. As they say..assume makes and a$$ out of "u" and "me" ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:30 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > does anyone really think cf could go by the wayside? > > ..tony > > Tony Weeg > Senior Web Developer > Information System Design > Navtrak, Inc. > Fleet Management Solutions > www.navtrak.net > 410.548.2337 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:23 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > > Jeff, > > I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone > seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little > over a year ago. > > The sad fact of the matter is that MS is more trustworthy than MM, when > it comes to secure futures for its developers. I mean, C# could be the > biggest failure of all time, but MS would ride it out and C# developers > would have jobs for a long time to come. JSP is stable, because it's not > a company centric language. It's the CF developers who are up late at > night wondering what the future holds. > > Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. > If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and > children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) > > I'd just like to take this opportunity to encourage everyone to learn a > new language. Even if you don't use it extensively, you can at least > secure peace-of-mind. > > Adam Wayne Lehman > Web Systems Developer > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > Distance Education Division > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:52 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > The fact that I have seen the same ( or similar ) words said a bunch > of > times on this list makes me suspicious of them. > > At 03:32 PM 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >that is correct. we are not cutting back. in fact, we will be > dedicating > >more resources to the coldfusion community. > > > >mike chambers > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:atyrone@;optonline.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:19 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > > > > > > > > I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that > > > MM is cutting > > > back. Maybe Vernon left because he wanted to, who knows. As with > the > > > Contribute thread (I'm glad I made an OT sub-folder for > > > cf-talk), people > > > start assuming and making stuff up before they know the whole story! > > > > > > On that note, I am glad that Vernon will be around as he's a > > > good voice of > > > reason to this list, at least in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
