Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very
impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far
from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that
wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to
build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding
serious problems.

We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have
found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and
line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is
different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The
documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time
misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged
out findings and has offered no solutions.

Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any
1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are
fixed.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum@;ohio.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day
> 
> > I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products.
Everyone
> > seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a
little
> > over a year ago.
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat
chance.
> > If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women
and
> > children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :)
> >
> 
> MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but
> because
> there was so much right with it.  When you can do as much and more
with
> CFMX
> and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and
far
> less
> server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator?  The cfm/fla
> marriage
> is perfect.  Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be
the
> greatest thing since soft butter!  If you've read the postings of
people
> who
> attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers.  MM
is
> taking CF & Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications.
And
> the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to
play
> too!  I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire.  But they keep
> showing
> me a stronger and stronger commitment.  I have no trouble staying with
MM.
> They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products.
> 
> As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's
just
> good business.  That does not make a company bad.  Generator's life
had
> come
> to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle
> with
> the advances in Flash.  CF is a much better server side solution to
power
> that.  Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part.  It was a
very
> good idea.  Good business.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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