Brook,

My main reason for mentioning my success story is because when a system
works it isn't always highly touted.  People, well non-tech people,
think 'It did what it is supposed to do, what's the big deal?'.  And you
tend not to hear about it.

But when it doesn't work, that's when people start getting loud, and
they overpower the already non-existent shouts of success.  In turn, I
feel that people only hear about the bad, so they only remember the bad.
The more people who only remember the bad (and don't hear the good) the
worse in my opinion.

That's why I took a moment to be vocal on my success.  I hope you
resolve your issues and can then join me in saying that CFMX can get the
job done.

Have a great weekend, I'm going to go get in traffic in a little bit.

t

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Tyler M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
http://isitedesign.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Server Crash #4 for the day..


I wish it was, but we have only one app on the server, and it does not
use 
session variables and the application var usage has been thoroughly 
reviewed and the locks appear correct.

The application vars used by the app are refreshed essentially once a
day 
or when they do not exist (isdefined), these locks would not have been
in 
effect at the time of these crashed. The application vars would have
been 
being read but not written. This is the case throughout the site with no

exceptions.

There are several 3rd party calls, and I had thought initially that this

was the problem. But I am not alone with this problem as it seems Tyler
is 
with his "Success" stories. Tyler, do you think every one in this thread

has some application issues and that we should all stop blaming CFMX and

use your limited success as proof that CFMX works under load?

http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=143&thr
eadi 
d=468954

Brook




At 02:58 PM 27/11/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Off the top of my head and perhaps worth just that...
>
>Could you have a deadlock condition going? ... Locking A&B on one 
>request
>and another near simultaneous request locking B&A such that each are 
>waiting on the other to finish and release the lock so that they can
exert 
>their second lock and continue?
>
>Just an off the wall thought from previous experiences with "other" 
>systems.
>
>
>
>
>
>At 02:45 PM 11/27/02, you wrote:
> >Well, our CFMX server just crashed for the 4th time today. I've had 
> >the perfmon open all day and have been watching the traffic. We had 
> >an average of 12 connections when the running requests started to 
> >grow and grow. As I mentioned in my previous post, there were 3 
> >running requests that had not finished for hours. As far as the 
> >number of CFMX request, as I was watching it, it never went above 6. 
> >This really means there was a max of 3 running requests (on top of 
> >the 3 that were already dead), it would go up to 6 and then back down

> >to 3. Those 3 threads weren't going anywhere.
> >
> >Then I noticed that the running requests was growing incrementally, 
> >so I tried to make an HTTP request to the server....and it did not 
> >respond. I checked the running requests, and there was one more. The 
> >server was DEAD, HUNG, FINISHED - KAPUT.
> >
> >The Perfmon counter restarted jrun when the running requests reached 
> >10, and the server came back to life. Thank you Lee Fuller for this
> temporary fix.
> >
> >What is Macromedia doing about this? CFMX is not ready for 
> >production. If your sales of CFMX are not what you expected, there's 
> >a fairly obvious reason why. I certainly, based on my experience, 
> >would not recommend (and I think anyone running CFMX would agree) 
> >anyone to switch to CFMX anytime soon. Unless you have plenty of 
> >spare time to baby sit your server.
> >
> >Brook
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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