InfoWorld mentions it
(http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/16/021216opcringely.xml)
.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:12 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: MS CF?
> 
> Here is a question.
> Why is it that no other news outlet is reporting this? I mean, I go to
the
> following sites, and these are the only stories I can find that
mention M$
> and MM in the same story:
> 
> CNN:
>
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/industry/09/26/microsoft.flash.idg/index.ht
ml
> MSNBC:     Nothing
> Bloomberg: Nothing
> Forbes: Nothing
> Macromedia: Nothing
> M$: Nothing
> 
> 
> I could go on, but I think you all get the point. Why is it that The
> Register is allowed to break with this news, then all of the other
more
> reputable sources out there have nothing, and the one that does touts
the
> relationship that MM and M$ have had. I say we all stop with "The Sky
Is
> Falling" crap, move this to cf-community, and get back to taking about
> substantiated facts rather than hollow rumors.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:50 PM
> Subject: RE: MS CF?
> 
> 
> > MSFT offers developers security? You mean like the VB developers
they
> > abandoned to launch VB.NET. Or the C++ developers they abandoned for
C#.
> > Then of course there is the various technologies they have abandoned
in
> > favor of something newer that does the same thing only differently
and
> > incompatible with the last like DAO, RDO, and COM.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > 888-408-0900 x901
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:44 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > >
> > > You can sit here and complain that MS is the bad guy, but they are
not
> > > the company you have put your faith in. I know I have the
unpopular
> > view
> > > on this list as anti-MM, but I can tell you that if MS owned
Flash,
> > you
> > > wouldn't have to worry about it being sold again. Same goes for
Cold
> > > Fusion. You could rest assured that the technology and education
you
> > put
> > > into MS will still be viable in 20 years. Which is something only
a
> > fool
> > > would say about Cold Fusion or Flash which are both still in their
> > > relative adolescence.
> > >
> > > Quite frankly, MS offers developers security. Something that MM
and
> > > Allaire have failed quite miserably at (IMO).
> > >
> > > Rest assured though, we will probably not fall to the evil empire.
If
> > > acquiring MM is a bid to diminish J2EE, I would expect IBM or Sun
to
> > > offer a merger to counter an MS acquisition. After all, they both
> > seemed
> > > to have invested a great deal in Cold Fusion and its J2ee
developers.
> > >
> > > Although I still tell every CF developer I meet to learn a new
> > language.
> > > Bottom line is that a broader skill set is never a detriment.
> > >
> > > Adam Wayne Lehman
> > > Web Systems Developer
> > > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> > > Distance Education Division
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:22 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > >
> > > nah - no pitying required :)
> > >
> > > So how would selling your MS shares after MM was acquired not be
> > > reinforcing
> > > your opinion below? You would both be voicing your disapproval to
MS
> > and
> > > be
> > > profiting from it. Seems silly as an investor to voice your
opinion
> > > before
> > > hand based on internet speculation from the Register.
> > >
> > > Adam.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:58 AM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, welcome to America where you vote means nothing unless
> > > > there is an
> > > > amount of money tied to it. I buy stocks in companies where I
> > > > like their
> > > > business practices, think they have good products, and
> > > > approve of how they
> > > > treat their staff.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes I loose money, often I make money. Because in the
> > > > end how you run
> > > > your business is how you wind up being treated - in this
> > > > world or the next.
> > > >
> > > > I disapprove of a lot of Microsoft's business practices, and
> > > > I think they
> > > > are an ethically bad company. They make money - yes - but
> > > > that is all they
> > > > do.
> > > >
> > > > Plus I sleep *really* well.
> > > >
> > > > ALL IMHO as it is my funny green pieces of paper that we have
> > > > put value on.
> > > >
> > > > (If you think it's all about the money - I pity you)
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:39 AM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why would you sell it? I'm no Wall St. slickster, but
> > > > wouldn't you make out
> > > > well if you were suddenly in possession of $54 MS stock in
> > > > exchange for your
> > > > $11 MM shares?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:32 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ha, from the Robertson-Ravo news source :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Guess now I *don't* have to sell my Macromedia stock, whew!
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:04 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > its not
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 23 December 2002 17:07
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: RE: MS CF?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please tell me this isn't true.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > http://treebeard.sourceforge.net
> > > > > http://ruinworld.sourceforge.net
> > > > > Scientia Est Potentia
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:07 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: MS CF?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/28667.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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