I hate to put my .02 in on OT, but... MS didn't abondon VB or C++ programmers with .NET. Yes, they changed VB to more closely resemble an OOP language (still needs work). C++ didn't change, Visual C++ changed. There is a strong difference. Language syntax and rules and what-have-you are still the same, it's the interaction with MS apps that are different. .NET is an expansion (and actually a damn fine one) of the existing supported technologies. C# is a new language all together.
Change is inevetible and necessary for the growth and innovation of our industry. Quitcherbitchin'... Cutter Matt Liotta wrote: >MSFT offers developers security? You mean like the VB developers they >abandoned to launch VB.NET. Or the C++ developers they abandoned for C#. >Then of course there is the various technologies they have abandoned in >favor of something newer that does the same thing only differently and >incompatible with the last like DAO, RDO, and COM. > >Matt Liotta >President & CEO >Montara Software, Inc. >http://www.montarasoftware.com/ >888-408-0900 x901 > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:44 PM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: RE: MS CF? >> >>You can sit here and complain that MS is the bad guy, but they are not >>the company you have put your faith in. I know I have the unpopular >> >> >view > > >>on this list as anti-MM, but I can tell you that if MS owned Flash, >> >> >you > > >>wouldn't have to worry about it being sold again. Same goes for Cold >>Fusion. You could rest assured that the technology and education you >> >> >put > > >>into MS will still be viable in 20 years. Which is something only a >> >> >fool > > >>would say about Cold Fusion or Flash which are both still in their >>relative adolescence. >> >>Quite frankly, MS offers developers security. Something that MM and >>Allaire have failed quite miserably at (IMO). >> >>Rest assured though, we will probably not fall to the evil empire. If >>acquiring MM is a bid to diminish J2EE, I would expect IBM or Sun to >>offer a merger to counter an MS acquisition. After all, they both >> >> >seemed > > >>to have invested a great deal in Cold Fusion and its J2ee developers. >> >>Although I still tell every CF developer I meet to learn a new >> >> >language. > > >>Bottom line is that a broader skill set is never a detriment. >> >>Adam Wayne Lehman >>Web Systems Developer >>Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health >>Distance Education Division >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:22 PM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: RE: MS CF? >> >>nah - no pitying required :) >> >>So how would selling your MS shares after MM was acquired not be >>reinforcing >>your opinion below? You would both be voicing your disapproval to MS >> >> >and > > >>be >>profiting from it. Seems silly as an investor to voice your opinion >>before >>hand based on internet speculation from the Register. >> >>Adam. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:58 AM >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>> >>> >>>Well, welcome to America where you vote means nothing unless >>>there is an >>>amount of money tied to it. I buy stocks in companies where I >>>like their >>>business practices, think they have good products, and >>>approve of how they >>>treat their staff. >>> >>>Sometimes I loose money, often I make money. Because in the >>>end how you run >>>your business is how you wind up being treated - in this >>>world or the next. >>> >>>I disapprove of a lot of Microsoft's business practices, and >>>I think they >>>are an ethically bad company. They make money - yes - but >>>that is all they >>>do. >>> >>>Plus I sleep *really* well. >>> >>>ALL IMHO as it is my funny green pieces of paper that we have >>>put value on. >>> >>>(If you think it's all about the money - I pity you) >>>Rob >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:39 AM >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>> >>> >>>Why would you sell it? I'm no Wall St. slickster, but >>>wouldn't you make out >>>well if you were suddenly in possession of $54 MS stock in >>>exchange for your >>>$11 MM shares? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:32 AM >>>>To: CF-Talk >>>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>>> >>>> >>>>Ha, from the Robertson-Ravo news source :) >>>> >>>>Guess now I *don't* have to sell my Macromedia stock, whew! >>>> >>>>Rob >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:04 AM >>>>To: CF-Talk >>>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>>> >>>> >>>>its not >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>Sent: 23 December 2002 17:07 >>>>To: CF-Talk >>>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>>> >>>> >>>>Please tell me this isn't true. >>>> >>>>Rob >>>> >>>>http://treebeard.sourceforge.net >>>>http://ruinworld.sourceforge.net >>>>Scientia Est Potentia >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:07 AM >>>>To: CF-Talk >>>>Subject: MS CF? >>>> >>>> >>>>http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/28667.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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