Answers below your questions/statements... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Visual Fusion - Thoughts?
> Pablo, > > Very good idea!. A - Thank you! I guess you are going to use Java to Re-write the CFML Tags > and use Java Swing Components for Presentation? Idea sounds good.. and a lot > of work. A - Yes, a lot of work, but good things always do take a lot of work! :) > > Drawbacks..(Just my thoughts) > 1. You are moving from N-Tier Technology to client-server. A - Yes at first, but once the initial application is made, we can always go in any direction.. I just at first want to make it work, then worry about the advanced things :) > 2. If you are targeting small/mid level customers.. you might as well write > JSP and run it on a Reference Implementation(Tomcat). The problem is that with this you have to know Java coding and your code is freely avaialble :) With this tool anyone with CFML knowledge can create applications and your code is secure. > 3. Swing Components are not easy to work with. A - I agree, buit once again anything worth doing, is worth doingright.. which takes up a lot of time! :) > 4. Everytime you make an update to your code.. you will end up doing > installations... Isnt this why we prefer thin client? A - Well, this is where updates and patches come into effect... but it's a very good point... one worth addressing... > 5. Is development of this tool going to be cheap? A - The price has not been set, being that I've been doing it all alone and if I can get (a few already asked to work on this) with no upfront costs, when the program is released they make more anyways and we can make this really affordable. ;) > Good Java Swing Talent is expensive. A - I agree, but if you give a Java Programmer the ability to make hundreds of thousands/millions in the long run for something that does have a market, then it's better for them in the end... If not I'll end up writing it all alone and then the costs can really be low :) but would take longer to be released! > > If you can sell it for all the above hassle.. its defnitely worth it. > > Joe > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:01:50 -0600 Pablo Varando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Yes, I want to better the ColdFusion community, > > the only problem I've always > > ran into is that customers in some cases don't > > want to spend money on a > > license for the server because all they want is > > an intranet application to > > keep track of employee records. > > > > So this would be the perfect solution as you > > could create the program, make > > it run stand-alone. > > > > The entire point of this application is to make > > ColdFusion bigger and > > stronger... that is what I always have in mind > > when i make my CF > > products/services (CFM-Resources.Com, > > EasyCFM.Com, Visual Fusion, etc...) > > > > Pablo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Robertson" > > To: "CF-Talk" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:50 PM > > Subject: Re: Visual Fusion - Thoughts? > > > > > > > Dave wrote: > > > >Out of curiosity, what are the legal > > ramification of this? > > > > > > If all he uses is the cfml language powered > > by a different back end he > > should be safe, unless MM has copyrighted cfml. > > Since BlueDragon doesn't > > suffer from that problem I suspect they did > > not, which is a good thing for > > the growth and future of CF in general. > > > > > > I like how Pablo's idea doesn't take a piece > > out of the pie. It makes the > > pie bigger. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
