We've had success with the MX products as a whole...and there's been lots of support on here...that's for sure. Just the pricing issue that's got me peeved.
If CFMX for J2EE was an entirely different product then I don't believe they'd offer license transfer to begin with... Again, I expected to pay...and have no quams about paying for a good product...just didn't expect to pay practically full price for the switch over... It's my own fault for making assumptions based on unofficial comments during beta trials...last year it was said that there would be a reasonable upgrade path from Ent to J2EE when it was released...making folks like us happy...who were anxious to get started with Mx when only Enterprise was available. Cheers, Stace -----Original Message----- From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE If enough people just do not buy it - you could expect some accommodation in the price IMHO The problem as I see it is that MM is so intent on pumping out new software to sell, and not paying enough attention to issues and full documentation on what they do release, is going to eventually bite them big time. Very conspicuous by their absence of resolution of horror stories on their own forums is a case in point. I guess they figure if they just ignore the problems they will go away. If enough of them go away, their competitors will gain the advantage. And of course everyone knows that their tech support sucks big time. ===================================== Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stacy Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: RE: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE | " I wish for a lot of things, too, but Macromedia is in the business of | selling software - it costs them money to develop all these different | versions, and it doesn't surprise me too much that they want money for | each | of them." | | It's rare you'll hear me complain but in this instance I think it's | ridiculous...having to re-buy the same product for the J2EE version? | (license transfer resulting in a single copy). That's over $12,000 CDN | for single license of CFMX. (That Enterprise price tag plus license | transfer cost.) | | I was expecting to incur SOME cost...but not close to full price... | | Stace | | -----Original Message----- | From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:45 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE | | > I don't see any value in the Ent. version any more. It | > does not share sessions across multiple servers like | > the versions before ColdFusionMX. | | Unless I'm mistaken, no previous version of CF shared sessions across | multiple servers. CFMX Enterprise does allow this, using J2EE sessions | and | the underlying "buddy list" functionality of the subset of JRun that | | CFMX | Enterprise runs on, I think. | | > I would like to move to Java Sessions but I need a Java | > Application server like JRUN or Websphere to manage the | > sessions. | | Again, I don't think that's true. You can use J2EE sessions now in CFMX; | just enable it in the CF Administrator. This will allow you to share | session | data between .cfm pages and other servlets or JSP pages you might run on | CFMX. | | > Wish that if I go to J2EE and started with JRUN | > that if down the road I moved to Websphere I could do | > that without another cost. What is a person to do? | | I wish for a lot of things, too, but Macromedia is in the business of | selling software - it costs them money to develop all these different | versions, and it doesn't surprise me too much that they want money for | each | of them. | | Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software | http://www.figleaf.com/ | voice: (202) 797-5496 | fax: (202) 797-5444 | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
