Matt, I respect your opinion, but I can't agree with disregarding .NET entirely. I mean after all, you would be on .NET right now if it wasn't for CFMX. (and a lot of people have CFMX running on Windows) IMO j2ee is a much more robust architecture, but .NET has some strengths & and adds tight integration across all MS technology. With the amount of MCSE/MCADs out there, j2EE will have a tough fight over the coming years, as these MCSE/MCADs aren't going to be recommending a new foreign technology to companies that already employ MS solutions.
But I guess the bottom line is... CF used to be the cheapest fastest way to develop. However right now, I could be underbid by a .NET house just on server price, and all the "J2ee is the de facto" talk in the world, isn't going to mean much to clients who have been with MS for years. My point IS that it IS CFMX vs .NET. And I care about both. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -----Original Message----- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE Yes, but who cares about .NET? Certainly many people do and those people might also care about price, but J2EE is the de facto standard at this point and CFMX's price fits well within that market, which is the market(TM) to be in. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:02 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > > Those prices are pretty hefty in comparison to .NET. With .NET you need > only one server too. I believe win2k is around $1100 and advanced at 3k. > Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all. > > Adam Wayne Lehman > Web Systems Developer > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > Distance Education Division > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > > Cantrell, > This is what i found on Macromedia.com > > Prices on MM with NO Subsciption > ColdFusion MX for JRun(1 CPU) = US $3,399 > ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU) = US $6.798 > JRun 4(1 CPU License) = US $899 > JRun 4(2 Cpu License) = US $1799 > > Basically 2 CPU box cost = US $8597 > > Is this right information? if you have CF4.5 Ent and above, take 30% off > discount through Macromedia Volume License Program(MVLP). > > 6.798-2039.40(30%)=4758.60+1799(Jrun) > ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU) = US $6557.60 > > The above is what i understand. Stacy.. are we on the same page? > I think MM should Bundle JRUN+CFMX and maybe get the Price > Competitive... > > Joe Eugene > > -------Original Message------- > From: Christian Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 02/03/03 03:24 PM > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > > > > > For CFMX for J2EE Application Servers licensing issues, take a look at > > the FAQ below: > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/ > > Specifically, for those interested in transferring licenses, see: > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/#700 > > Finally, the ColdFusion MX for J2EE License Transfer Page: > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/special/ > license_transfer/ > > Information on how to contact your local reseller is available at the > URL above. > > Christian > > On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 11:51 AM, Chris White wrote: > > > Interesting - I have been running a few ColdFusion Ent. servers since > > > 4.5 and we had purchased a 2 year support agreement. The support runs > > > out this year. > > > > I would like to move to a J2EE version but based on what you were told > > > makes a person wonder what to do. I have paid enough for the Ent. > > versions. > > > > I don't see any value in the Ent. version any more. It does not share > > > sessions across multiple servers like the versions before > > ColdFusionMX. I would like to move to Java Sessions but I need a Java > > > Application server like JRUN or Websphere to manage the sessions. > > Wish that if I go to J2EE and started with JRUN that if down the road > > > I moved to Websphere I could do that without another cost. What is a > > > person to do? > > > > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:01 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > > > > There are so many questions about license issues and what is > > Macromedia going to do to entise me to move to a J2EE version. > > > > When CFMX came out we immediately upgraded on internal servers...we > > would have like to purchase the J2EE version (for WebLogic) but it > > wasn't out yet...so we purchased the Enterprise standalone version for > > > use until J2EE was out.... > > > > I was just told it will cost $2800+ to transfer each license to the > > J2EE version!!!! There must be some mistake...can someone form MM > > please comment? Can u not transfer licenses? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Stace > > > > AVIS IMPORTANT: > > ------------------------------- > > Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces > > jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la > > > (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le > > destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, > > > ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si > > > vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait > > communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document > > sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. > > > > WARNING: > > ------------------------------- > > The information contained in this document and attachments is > > confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you > > are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any > > disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information > > > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, > > > please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and > > attachments without making any copy of any kind. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
