very true just hard to argue with Ben personally I haven't bothered learning the cfform tags but after I read that I am compelled to try it out. not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone just thought I would mention it. but then again don't listen to be (see below, loll)
dave <!--- doesn't know jack about cfm ---> ----- Original Message ----- From: "charlie griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Re: CFFORM vs FORM > Dave Lyons writes: > > > I distinctly remember reading in Ben Forta book cfwack, that this issue was > > brought up and he cleared said that it was a very good tag to use. > > > > if need be I will flip through and try to find the wording if necessary > > If that is in fact Ben's opinion, he's entitled to it (just as we all are). > > He may have recommended it because it can arguably 'speed up' > development...but I think the costs (not learning) are too high a price to > pay for that small convenience. > > $0.02. > > Charlie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:46 AM > > Subject: Re: CFFORM vs FORM > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:42 AM > >> Subject: RE: CFFORM vs FORM > >> > >> > >> > well, that makes sense for someone proficient in js :) > >> > for those of us who arent, it really is a blessing. > >> > > >> > NOTICE TO ALL WHO ARE NOT HIGHLY PROFICIENT IN JS > >> > CFMX AND CFFORM TAGS ARE OK !!!! > >> > >> I could not disagree with this statement more. > >> > >> For the record, I've not yet played with MX...but my comments speak to the > >> usage of cfform in general. > >> > >> 1) You are a professional Web Developer (or some such title that implies > > the > >> same). If you're not proficient in js, learn it or risk falling behind > > the > >> curve. > >> > >> 2) cfform can only do so much. Can you compare two field values to see if > >> they're equal? Can you say, 'if this field has a value then this field > >> cannot'? Can you do anything past the basic validation? By learning JS, > >> you give yourself that ability. By relying on cfform, you are very > > limited > >> in what you can do. > >> > >> 3) If you truly think having CF do the work for you (in generating its own > >> JS) is 'a blessing'...you are very wrong. It's a curse because it coaxes > >> you in to a false sense of security while others around you are moving > >> forward with javascript and learning numerous other things that can be > >> accomplished with js. you will always be limited to checking to see if a > >> field is empty. or if it's numeric. ooooh. blessing. > >> > >> Not trying to come down on you. But since you stood on the soapbox and > >> yelled to the world that it's 'OK' to be in this field (Web Development) > > and > >> not be profieient in JS...well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to > >> it. My opinion is that if you don't know XHTML, XML, JavaScript, CSS, and > >> at least one server side scripting language (CF, ASP, JSP, etc)...and are > >> content to know less...then you're in for a rude awakening. > >> > >> Just my $0.02. > >> > >> Charlie > >> > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
