I don't want to get into the quarterly "is FB good" debate, but had to reply to this post. I'm obviously on the side of FB, but tried to make this objective. I will studiously ignore any flames ;)
FB is not perfect for any individual use, as is any piece of general-purpose software. However, it is pretty darn good, and lets you (as the architect and/or developer) concentrate on the functional pieces, rather than how the functional pieces interact with each other. Yes it has it's problems (performance being one), but they are more than made up for it it's ability to streamline development, and instill a consistent feel to ALL code, which makes going back and updating apps MUCH easier, especially if you haven't worked with them in a long while. It is also viewed as overly simplistic, and it is in a lot of ways when compared to other frameworks. Jakarta Struts in particular takes a very similar approach to organizing the functional pieces, but brings a lot of extra functionality with it (such I18N stuff) that FB doesn't. When I started working with FB (after learning CF), everything was a little confusing, but it made relative sense, and the underlying logic behind the architecture was appearent after only a few weeks of using it. When I played with Struts for a couple weeks a year ago or so, I found myself quite confused by all the options and stuff it presented to the developer. Of course, you can simply ignore a lot of it, but figuring out HOW to ignore it was the trick. I'd have found it much easier if Struts came in a stripped down format, with a set of modules that you can easily activate (kind of like Apache HTTP Server). FB takes the route of a minimal framework that you can add stuff to. There isn't a large set of prepared modules for adding functionality (SES is one, I'm sure there are others), but it does strip all the extra junk out of the framework, and let the developer only add in what he/she wants, as he/she wants it. Conclusion: FB is good at what it does, while remaining general. It is designed for a (relatively) shallow learning curve, and makes some sacrifices for that. This places it in the perfect position for simpler apps, but allows it to work for huge apps as well, and best of all, easily allows small apps to grow into huge apps without much trouble. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:17 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX > > > On a personal note..... > > It still baffles me that people use FB simply because I always see various > wrokarounds etc. because of using FB (like simply because of switching to > CFMX this or that must be re-worked). I fully understand the "hand off to > other coders and easy to update" ideal of FB, but any well written app has > those features. So I'm left wondering....why use FB if it adds to your > problems? > > Did most FB folks start CF using FB or adopt it along the way? > > Personally I started using a similar methodology before FB existed....saw > limitations I didn't like and dropped it. > > my 2 cents ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:21 AM > Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX > > > > On Thursday, Feb 20, 2003, at 05:42 US/Pacific, Larry Juncker wrote: > > > Then everything works SUPER..... > > > > One issue to be aware of is if any of your fbx_switch.cfm files contain > > a large number of cases *and* a lot of code - you may hit the Java > > switch/jump limit. A couple of people have reported running into that > > with FB3. Moving the big blocks of into included files solves the > > problem. I believe the CFMX Updaters have also mitigated this problem > > (can anyone comment on that?). > > > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > > -- Margaret Atwood > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
