Scott Wilhelm writes: 

>- snip -<
> If 10% of the market uses Opera, it's an established browser...Why
 

That's a big 'If'.  I'm not saying Opera does *not* have 10% of the market, 
as I've not seen any numbers that would either prove or disprove.  But if 
somebody *does* have stats out there to show 10% Opera usage, I'd love to 
see it (yes, i -am- skeptical) :) 


charlie 

 

> 
> Scott 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:02 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! 
> 
> 
> You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with
> Opera.
> Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are
> a
> few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out
> there
> that is not checking for that browser. Why not apply yourself to the QA
> department if Opera compatibility is such an issue?
> Personally I do not have any problems loading the new site in IE. I am
> viewing it on a Dell Inspiron, 1.5 GHZ Pentium 4 processor with a half a
> gig
> of RAM, and it is running just fine. Maybe Opera needs to get on board
> and
> make their browser work with other companies sites? 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! 
> 
> 
>> That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website!
>> Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get
> one.
>> If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know
> what
>> they are doing.
>> You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page
> with
> a
>> browser like Opera. 
>>
>> I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never
> stops
> to
>> think before it releases things lol. 
>>
>> Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser
> with
>> 10%, and growing, of the market. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! 
>>
>>
>> The new macromedia.com is certainly a "next generation" site, and
>> unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention
>> below.  I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find
>> things like this by going to the following URL: 
>>
>> http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html 
>>
>> I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and "next
>> generation" project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging
>> from performance to compatibility.  Over time, however, it has really
>> been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS.  To some
>> extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big
>> steps forward.  Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and
> I'm
>> glad it's Macromedia. 
>>
>> Christian 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: 
>>
>> > I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:
>> >
>> > - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
>> > be watching
>> > - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
>> > matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.
>> >
>> > For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:
>> >
>> > - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended)
>> > - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
>> > - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
>> > that are visible, aren't functional)
>> >
>> > - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)
>> >
>> > - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)
>> >
>> > It's unfortunate.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jillian
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
>> >> To: CF-Talk
>> >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to
>> >> look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick),
>> >> but I cant see how you could have failed to find the
>> >> exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
>> >> To: CF-Talk
>> >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash
>> >> everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many
> regards...
>> >>
>> >> They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite
>> >> a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the
>> >> site map....
>> >>
>> >> That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't
>> >> make me feel the site is any more responsive...
>> >>
>> >> Hopefully they revise this...
>> >>
>> >> Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
>> >> files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen
>> >> block to select show newest...  a change from how it
>> >> historically has worked...
>> >>
>> >> But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)
>> >>
>> >> -p
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 -0000
>> >>
>> >>> I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back
> button
>> >> problem
>> >>> which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much
>> >>> cleaner.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
>> >>> To: CF-Talk
>> >>> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's
>> >> supposed to
>> >>> :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it
>> >> over a modem
>> >>> though!
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
>> >>> To: CF-Talk
>> >>> Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)
>> >>>
>> >>> The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks
>> >> excellent (if a
>> >>> little slow in places).
>> >>>
>> >>> Well done MM.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > 
>>
>> 
> 
> 
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