One thing to note, if Opera by default identifies itself as IE then why
doesn't it render pages the same as IE? Why would you pretend to be a
different browser and then not support the same things?

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Garrison Enterprises Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New MM.com


http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2003/February/browser.php

Stats from Internet.com and its suite of sites : 580020 out of 113973510
visitors in February this year had Opera x.x  That is 0.0051 percent of
browser usage.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_war.asp
Doesn't even list Opera, because its usage is less than 1%.

I'm not saying that its right that the MM site doesn't work with Opera,
but that your quote of 10% is wildly inaccurate.

It also begs the question, why does it not work in Opera?  I've got the
site working in IE5.5, Mozilla 1.1a and Nutscrape 4.7 crashed, but then
that hardly surprising given how bad it was at pretty much everything!

The only negative things I will say are (in no order of preference) :
1) why on earth is there an XHTML DOCTYPE in the site, when plainly its
more likely to be html4.01 - someone's been a bit overzealous with the
selection of the DOCTYPE in DWMX me thinks.... ;o)

2) It does take a little too long to Initialise, assemble and Process
the content, particularly on the home page when you first visit the
site.

3) Why oh why is there cgi all over the place???  MM have got 2 server
technologies to show off as well as flash mx and there is no _visible_
use of those technologies on the site and the cgi files make it look
like you're using perl!!!!!!

Stop being a whining troll Bill and get back to CF_Community.   ;oD

Please will everyone else please post their _constructive_ critism
through the feedback page here
(http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html) as Christian
politely requested before.

Regards

Stephen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


> Nah its just another example of macromedia. :)
>
> Kinda makes me laugh in a way
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: New MM.com
>
>
> One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the 
> market (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the

> Macromedia site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.
>
> mike chambers
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: New MM.com
>
>
> > AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
horses*it
> > to me ;)
> > The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
> > I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then

> > i'm
a
> > little worried.
> > If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
> market
> > well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site 
> > anymore unfortunately until they fix the problem.
> >
>
>
> 

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