Good points but there is still a huge difference between the ownership implications of 
.NET and Java IMHO.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Original Message -----------------------
Java is owned by Sun Microsystems Incorporated.  There is a community process in place 
that recommends changes to Java, but the final authority rests with Sun.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:53 pm
Subject: RE: RE: CF or .net?

> Mike,
> 
> While it's true that Java is not owned by anyone it does suffer from
> institutional infighting and proprietary vendor issues.  I'm a 
> little tepid
> on that item.  I agree with everything else however.
> 
> -mk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Brunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: RE: CF or .net?
> 
> 
> Eric, here are some of the things I see on my travels, I hope they 
> help (I
> am assuming CFMX here).
> 
> ColdFusion is native operating system agnostic .NET is not.  To me 
> and many
> of our clients, this is very important.
> 
> It is still significantly quicker to code in ColdFusion than other web
> application languages.
> 
> ColdFusion has an optional well developed and widely used application
> architecture/framework called Fusebox. (I said optional so the 
> flaming is
> not too intense ;o)
> 
> The core of ColdFusion is written in Java.  It is not clear as yet 
> wherethis might take CF but Java is not owned by anyone .NET is.
> 
> You can run ColdFusion as an application server in Java containers 
> such as
> Websphere, Weblogic etc.
> Those are what I can think of at present, hth.
> 
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
> Original Message -----------------------
> Actually I am looking for some fair comparisons of the two 
> products (CF and
> .net) to present to our group.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean A Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF or .net?
> 
> 
> On Friday, Jun 20, 2003, at 08:07 US/Pacific, Josh Remus wrote:
> > On top of that fact, if Macromedia does not have reduced pricing for
> > you,
> > BlueDragon would be free as long as you don't need to deploy it 
> on a
> > J2EE
> > server.
> 
> And as long as you don't need:
> - cfexecute
> - cfobject
> - cfwddx
> 
> See New Atlanta's website for more information about what is not
> included in the free server edition:
> 
> http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/
> cfml_tag_support.cfm
> 
> You'd also want to read their compatibility guide closely...
> 
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> 
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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