----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: RE: RE: CF or .net?
> Java is owned by Sun Microsystems Incorporated. There is a community process in place that recommends changes to Java, but the final authority rests with Sun. Yeah -- second that. Sun has not released Java to a standards body (ANSI, ISO, ECMA, etc). Sun employees chair most if not all of the committees for the Java Community Process (JCP) and most importantly, Sun has the only veto power for the Java community process. Sun owns Java. Of course BEA and IBM (and to a lesser extent, JBoss) actually are the ones who figured out how to build and sell Java servers... and thus have a lot of market clout. Of course MS got ECMA to ratify part of .NET as a standard for what that's worth.... :) That said, they act a lot like a benevolent dictator -- and occasionally, Sun-sponsored initiatives even get rejected (most recently, 4 JCPs in the wireless/handheld world). Their veto let's them *prevent* anything they want from getting in Java, but does not let them *force* anything into the Java spec either. And there's a new JCP to make the JCP itself more transparent to the community -- which should help even more. Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/TransitionPoint ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

