Eric, I have a couple more thoughts on the CF vs. .NET debate. When you bring this debate up in your user group, etc., I think it's worth pointing out again that we shouldn't really debate CF versus .NET. That's not really apples and apples. The .NET framework is more akin to the Java platform--and that means more than Java the language but the entire library of functionality (including J2EE) that both CFMX and BlueDragon are built upon.
And just as the Java platform is being leveraged by thousands of organizations as an industry standard framework on which to develop (or buy) custom and resold applications, the same will be true of .NET. We CFers need to reconsider our assertions of CF vs .NET. Indeed, if I can take just one paragraph for a relevant comment on BlueDragon, our .NET is built upon the .NET framework and provides both the ability to run CFML apps on .NET as well as opportunities for native integration with that underlying platform (and ability to satisfy shops who can no longer run any CF servers, whether ColdFusion or BlueDragon Server). For more on the difference between BlueDragon Server (and Server JX) and BlueDragon/J2EE and .NET, see http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/. Back to the debate about CF and .NET, it may be more fair to compare CFML vs. ASP.NET. Those are more of the same type, and to be honest ASP.NET is not really the same as ASP, so a lot of the old arguments deserve at least a revisit. We all love CFML, of course, and would all agree that we can be most productive with it. But give ASP.NET a look. And--just one last relevant plug--with BlueDragon/.NET, you'll even be able to integrate your CFML apps with ASP.NET apps, much like CFMX and BlueDragon today provide that integration with JSPs and servlets. Clearly, the discussion of CF and .NET is a broader one than may seem at first, on a number of levels. /charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:25 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF or .net? > > > Actually I am looking for some fair comparisons of the two > products (CF and .net) to present to our group. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:41 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF or .net? > > > On Friday, Jun 20, 2003, at 08:07 US/Pacific, Josh Remus wrote: > > On top of that fact, if Macromedia does not have reduced pricing for > > you, > > BlueDragon would be free as long as you don't need to deploy it on a > > J2EE > > server. > > And as long as you don't need: > - cfexecute > - cfobject > - cfwddx > > See New Atlanta's website for more information about what is not > included in the free server edition: > > http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/ > cfml_tag_support.cfm > > You'd also want to read their compatibility guide closely... > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > -- Margaret Atwood > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

