Mahmut,

While I also agree that your email was in bad taste...I do also have to
agree with most things you said.  I think most people on this list went
through what you've gone through.  I can't even count the number of
posts to cf-talk that asked about the real-cache issue.

We shouldn't have to codger and tweak and coax an application server to
"work".  CF-5 was fantastic, simple installation.  I seriously believe
that Macromedia dropped the ball big time with the CFMX release...it
wasn't ready.  Updater 3 seems to have resolved most of the major
issues.  Not a great start for early adopters though.  I hope they're
taking note... I figure for every angry CFMX poster out there... There
must be hundreds that haven't posted or even read CF-Talk.  

Here's hoping Red-Sky addresses some of our concerns.

Sincerely,

Ben.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahmut Basaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: I knew your name was Neo
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> You know, you sometimes need to tell this to others. I have 
> been using coldfusion since version 4. I remember the first 
> time I installed 4.0, very first one. It just worked. Then I 
> read the 1st chapter in cfdoc, and typed in the commands. 
> Then it worked too. Installation and 1st .cfm page didn't 
> take longer than 1 hour. Funny things was, It was the first 
> time I used a server-side scripting language. I have been 
> using cf for a while and a member of cftalk for a while too, 
> I really like them both.
> 
> But you know, after spending 10 hours for nothing, it doesn't 
> add too much to send such an email. That's why I did it.
> 
> Have a great day,
> 
> Mahmut
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:45 PM
> Subject: RE: I knew your name was Neo
> 
> 
> Was that email really necessary? Is being a total smart 
> ass-jerk going to resolve any of your issues? It sucks you 
> had so many problems, but please do not act like a child. The 
> cf-talk list is available to help you and work with you. MX 
> is not perfect, but its getting there.  Don't give up yet. Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahmut Basaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: I knew your name was Neo
> 
> 
> Hi Macromedia,
> 
> How's it going bro ? I hope you're doing well. Do you know 
> what happened last night......
> 
> I know you're really busy but you definetly should read that. 
> I spent more than 10 hours to get cf mx working. I tried 
> several installs and uninstalls (which takes longer than 
> install), and after performing several reformats I found out 
> the problem was the locale setting of Windows 2000 Server 
> (which was set to Turkish during install).
> 
> Thank you Macromedia for your great Jrun engine.
> Thank you for asking me if I would like to install your 
> webserver (which you do not recommend for production) that 
> runs on port 8500. Thank you for your locale support. Thank 
> you for not letting me know about the real-cache attribute on 
> my very first install. Thank you for COM problems after I 
> upgrade from version 4.5 to mx. Thank you for making me wait 
> 10ms each time I refresh my code. Thank you for your great 
> Jrun connector. Thank you for your perfect Flash Remoting 
> add-ons. Thank you for your cfmail which sends mail with a 
> 15sec delay. Thank you for your consuming at least 30megs of 
> my server's memory with just sitting there. Thank you for 
> crashing the server each time someone uploads an infinite 
> loop or use mirror includes. Thank you for your "only" 140 
> megs installation. It's nice to know that cf is heavier than 
> php's 2meg installation but performs the same functions 
> (with/out addons). (list keeps going...)
> 
> and finally I would like to thank you for all the pain. Keep 
> up the good work and keep up coding with the ms style 
> "furnished" code. I'm curious to see the next episode.
> 
> You're the Best of Best! You're awesome!
> 
> 
> 
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