I don't see the value in your continuing to bemoan about how frustrated your
experience was.

Did you have a specfic *technical* issue or question that the users of this
list can help you address, or are you just venting?

- Calvin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mahmut Basaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:53 AM
Subject: RE: I knew your name was Neo


> I know that email wasn't in a perfect taste, but problems macromedia
caused since the first release of cfmx wasn't in great taste either. CF mx
was supposed to be the coolest coldfusion ever, but I think it's the worst
release ever.
>
> Coldfusion was famous with ease of use in all terms, but mx changed the
way it was. I signed up for this list when I was using 4.5. At these days,
when someone sent an email saying cf is crashing people here were
recommending to check server's memory. But now....
>
> Hopefully, red sky doesn't mean acid rain...
>
> Another beautiful day in Central Anatolia has just begun,
>
> Mahmut Basaran
>
>
> > Mahmut,
> >
> > While I also agree that your email was in bad taste...I do also have to
> > agree with most things you said.  I think most people on this list went
> > through what you've gone through.  I can't even count the number of
> > posts to cf-talk that asked about the real-cache issue.
> >
> > We shouldn't have to codger and tweak and coax an application server to
> > "work".  CF-5 was fantastic, simple installation.  I seriously believe
> > that Macromedia dropped the ball big time with the CFMX release...it
> > wasn't ready.  Updater 3 seems to have resolved most of the major
> > issues.  Not a great start for early adopters though.  I hope they're
> > taking note... I figure for every angry CFMX poster out there... There
> > must be hundreds that haven't posted or even read CF-Talk.
> >
> > Here's hoping Red-Sky addresses some of our concerns.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ben.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mahmut Basaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:16 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: I knew your name was Neo
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > You know, you sometimes need to tell this to others. I have
> > > been using coldfusion since version 4. I remember the first
> > > time I installed 4.0, very first one. It just worked. Then I
> > > read the 1st chapter in cfdoc, and typed in the commands.
> > > Then it worked too. Installation and 1st .cfm page didn't
> > > take longer than 1 hour. Funny things was, It was the first
> > > time I used a server-side scripting language. I have been
> > > using cf for a while and a member of cftalk for a while too,
> > > I really like them both.
> > >
> > > But you know, after spending 10 hours for nothing, it doesn't
> > > add too much to send such an email. That's why I did it.
> > >
> > > Have a great day,
> > >
> > > Mahmut
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:45 PM
> > > Subject: RE: I knew your name was Neo
> > >
> > >
> > > Was that email really necessary? Is being a total smart
> > > ass-jerk going to resolve any of your issues? It sucks you
> > > had so many problems, but please do not act like a child. The
> > > cf-talk list is available to help you and work with you. MX
> > > is not perfect, but its getting there.  Don't give up yet. Mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mahmut Basaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:19 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: I knew your name was Neo
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Macromedia,
> > >
> > > How's it going bro ? I hope you're doing well. Do you know
> > > what happened last night......
> > >
> > > I know you're really busy but you definetly should read that.
> > > I spent more than 10 hours to get cf mx working. I tried
> > > several installs and uninstalls (which takes longer than
> > > install), and after performing several reformats I found out
> > > the problem was the locale setting of Windows 2000 Server
> > > (which was set to Turkish during install).
> > >
> > > Thank you Macromedia for your great Jrun engine.
> > > Thank you for asking me if I would like to install your
> > > webserver (which you do not recommend for production) that
> > > runs on port 8500. Thank you for your locale support. Thank
> > > you for not letting me know about the real-cache attribute on
> > > my very first install. Thank you for COM problems after I
> > > upgrade from version 4.5 to mx. Thank you for making me wait
> > > 10ms each time I refresh my code. Thank you for your great
> > > Jrun connector. Thank you for your perfect Flash Remoting
> > > add-ons. Thank you for your cfmail which sends mail with a
> > > 15sec delay. Thank you for your consuming at least 30megs of
> > > my server's memory with just sitting there. Thank you for
> > > crashing the server each time someone uploads an infinite
> > > loop or use mirror includes. Thank you for your "only" 140
> > > megs installation. It's nice to know that cf is heavier than
> > > php's 2meg installation but performs the same functions
> > > (with/out addons). (list keeps going...)
> > >
> > > and finally I would like to thank you for all the pain. Keep
> > > up the good work and keep up coding with the ms style
> > > "furnished" code. I'm curious to see the next episode.
> > >
> > > You're the Best of Best! You're awesome!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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