I don't see the value in your continuing to bemoan about how frustrated your experience was.
Did you have a specfic *technical* issue or question that the users of this list can help you address, or are you just venting? - Calvin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahmut Basaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: RE: I knew your name was Neo > I know that email wasn't in a perfect taste, but problems macromedia caused since the first release of cfmx wasn't in great taste either. CF mx was supposed to be the coolest coldfusion ever, but I think it's the worst release ever. > > Coldfusion was famous with ease of use in all terms, but mx changed the way it was. I signed up for this list when I was using 4.5. At these days, when someone sent an email saying cf is crashing people here were recommending to check server's memory. But now.... > > Hopefully, red sky doesn't mean acid rain... > > Another beautiful day in Central Anatolia has just begun, > > Mahmut Basaran > > > > Mahmut, > > > > While I also agree that your email was in bad taste...I do also have to > > agree with most things you said. I think most people on this list went > > through what you've gone through. I can't even count the number of > > posts to cf-talk that asked about the real-cache issue. > > > > We shouldn't have to codger and tweak and coax an application server to > > "work". CF-5 was fantastic, simple installation. I seriously believe > > that Macromedia dropped the ball big time with the CFMX release...it > > wasn't ready. Updater 3 seems to have resolved most of the major > > issues. Not a great start for early adopters though. I hope they're > > taking note... I figure for every angry CFMX poster out there... There > > must be hundreds that haven't posted or even read CF-Talk. > > > > Here's hoping Red-Sky addresses some of our concerns. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Ben. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mahmut Basaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:16 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: I knew your name was Neo > > > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > You know, you sometimes need to tell this to others. I have > > > been using coldfusion since version 4. I remember the first > > > time I installed 4.0, very first one. It just worked. Then I > > > read the 1st chapter in cfdoc, and typed in the commands. > > > Then it worked too. Installation and 1st .cfm page didn't > > > take longer than 1 hour. Funny things was, It was the first > > > time I used a server-side scripting language. I have been > > > using cf for a while and a member of cftalk for a while too, > > > I really like them both. > > > > > > But you know, after spending 10 hours for nothing, it doesn't > > > add too much to send such an email. That's why I did it. > > > > > > Have a great day, > > > > > > Mahmut > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:45 PM > > > Subject: RE: I knew your name was Neo > > > > > > > > > Was that email really necessary? Is being a total smart > > > ass-jerk going to resolve any of your issues? It sucks you > > > had so many problems, but please do not act like a child. The > > > cf-talk list is available to help you and work with you. MX > > > is not perfect, but its getting there. Don't give up yet. Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mahmut Basaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:19 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: I knew your name was Neo > > > > > > > > > Hi Macromedia, > > > > > > How's it going bro ? I hope you're doing well. Do you know > > > what happened last night...... > > > > > > I know you're really busy but you definetly should read that. > > > I spent more than 10 hours to get cf mx working. I tried > > > several installs and uninstalls (which takes longer than > > > install), and after performing several reformats I found out > > > the problem was the locale setting of Windows 2000 Server > > > (which was set to Turkish during install). > > > > > > Thank you Macromedia for your great Jrun engine. > > > Thank you for asking me if I would like to install your > > > webserver (which you do not recommend for production) that > > > runs on port 8500. Thank you for your locale support. Thank > > > you for not letting me know about the real-cache attribute on > > > my very first install. Thank you for COM problems after I > > > upgrade from version 4.5 to mx. Thank you for making me wait > > > 10ms each time I refresh my code. Thank you for your great > > > Jrun connector. Thank you for your perfect Flash Remoting > > > add-ons. Thank you for your cfmail which sends mail with a > > > 15sec delay. Thank you for your consuming at least 30megs of > > > my server's memory with just sitting there. Thank you for > > > crashing the server each time someone uploads an infinite > > > loop or use mirror includes. Thank you for your "only" 140 > > > megs installation. It's nice to know that cf is heavier than > > > php's 2meg installation but performs the same functions > > > (with/out addons). (list keeps going...) > > > > > > and finally I would like to thank you for all the pain. Keep > > > up the good work and keep up coding with the ms style > > > "furnished" code. I'm curious to see the next episode. > > > > > > You're the Best of Best! You're awesome! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

