Re FB4: I know that some stuff is going to go up soon. But since FB4 is just
now coming out of beta (and changing rapidly while doing so) I don't think
anything specific could come up.  

I don't know much about Mach-ii other than that its still in Alpha and
probably will be going through the same thing.

Then again, you could always take what is up on the site, go through the
core files (especially the parser which goes through the xml grammar part)
and start playing.  I've written an bunch of small applications for testing,
which has helped my knowledge immensely and the Fb4 email list off of Yahoo
and the forums list have been good when there have been problems.


As to the training and books (I will state here that I am lucky enough to be
one of the authors of the book so you can attribute some bias to my words),
both Hal and John have spent countless hours creating a framework that
benefits many of us everyday in the getting paid for work we do.  The
framework is free.  I however do not begrudge them the fact that they would
like to have something to show at the end of the day besides thanks.  Since
this is a community of professionals, I think it is incumbent upon us to all
contribute something.  For many of us it will be plugins, or articles
detailing how to do something in Fusebox 4.

I don't know where the attitude came that the people who make this framework
available for free have to do everything for us for free.  That they "owe
us" something.  

So rather then starting a flame war on this subject, I propose something
constructive.  Come up with an idea to give back to these communities (FB4,
CFMX).  Write an article, come up with an idea to share.  Give back.

(I'm putting my money where my mouth is), I've already written VTML's and a
toolbar for FB4.  IT will be up on the site in the next week or two. Anyone
want to write the help files for them?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FuseQ Documentation?


One thing I have noticed as of late is that the documentation on FB is not
that involved... unless you buy the books of course. Mach-II has a new site
up and lots of hype about Mach-II, but no documentation.. just advertising
for trainings and books, which again cost more money, but no
documentation...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: SOT: FuseQ Documentation?


> The techspedition site does a lot of talking about the virtues of
> FuseQ, but has very little in the way of meaty documentation, unless I
> missed something.
>
> Does anybody know where I can find what I'm looking for
> (documentation)? I just signed up for the Yahoo Groups FuseQ mailing
> list, but I've got to wait for who-knows-how-long for "membership
> approval."
>
> While I'm at it, I might as well ask my question here: When to use
> StartOfQ and when to use AddToQ? I started out using just AddToQ,
> within an MVC Fusebox/FuseQ app, but in at least one case, CF can't
> find the AddToQ method, but it *can* find it if I scope the AddToQ
> method to request within techspeditionFBcoremethods_CF50_v3_00_21.cfm.
>
> I suspect I shouldn't have to do this, though, and that I am doing
> something wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Jamie
> 

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