In addition to cfflush being unuseable within FB layouts, I'll also mention that FB3 
is awfully heavy to be running it as a custom tag. I've done it, and in some 
circumstances it's doable, but for instance, I had an application which was developed 
in FB3 with a separate circuit for a roles-based security model. We wanted to use the 
circuit as a custom tag within other circuits in order to occlude various features 
which were protected by the security model. Calling the circuit as a custom tag turned 
out to be far too costly to use that approach. Granted that this is an "advanced" 
feature of FuseBox, but it's also a potential hazard if you get a developer who comes 
in and sets something up that way and then you end up wondering why a whole bunch of 
pages are horrendously slow. 

I've used fusebox in the past and I can in the future if a client needs or wants. For 
my own development I don't prefer it. No offense to Hal and company, personally I find 
it slow (both development and page loads) and inflexible -- at least, that was my 
impression of FB3. One FB advocate friend of mine (who shall remain nameless) says 
it's because I'm too much of a "power user" (his view being that the big advantage of 
FB is standardization for the average developer). 

The best example I can give of why I found the framework slow and inflexible is this: 
my Tapestry CMS includes an add/remove components wizard which is much like the 
Windows add/remove programs wizard. It's wicked fast and allows add-on components to 
be installed or removed through a browser interface without modifying or overwriting 
any of the existing application code, without entering any file path information, and 
without so much as a single line of programming. It also uses cfflush to display 
installation progress. As a whole this couldn't have been done in FB3 without so 
significantly modifying the framework that I would have ended up doing more work than 
I did starting from scratch. 

I haven't looked at mach-ii yet. 

hth 

Isaac 

Original Message -----------------------
Mike we use Fusebox heavily and the only con I have enountered (this is FB30 and CF50) 
is layouts render CFFLUSH unusable.

Otherwise we like FB all the way.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Original Message -----------------------
Hey everyone,

Some co-workers have asked me for some pros and cons to Fusebox 4 or Fusebox in 
general.
I polled the Fusebox list awhile back and obviously got some biased results...  anyone 
care to chime in.... I guess im really looking for some cons as I have a decent list 
of pros.

Thanks,

Mike

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