Isn't there always the potential that the xml dialect may change for the purpose of 
facilitating new features in the framework?

> It's not just for cross-language purposes, Isaac, though
> that is
> important (we've got people working on PHP, Python, and
> Lasso with .NET
> and Java to come shortly) but just as importantly, for
> consistency
> across multiple versions. Even if we change the internals
> of the
> framework between versions, the XML will provide a
> consistent interface
> to the framework.

> Hal Helms
> "Java for CF Programmers" class
> in Las Vegas, August 18-22
> www.halhelms.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:18 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: re: Mach-II


> Yep... I wasn't really in touch with where you folks were
> in that
> process (finishing the beta, getting documentation done,
> etc.)... I
> wasn't griping -- I had just noticed several people point
> to
> http://beta.fusebox.org and had the impression that this
> response was
> roughly equivalent of:

> Q. Can you explain relativity to me?
> A. Relativity is relative.

> :)

> I'll admit that until I read something specifically about
> converting
> mach-ii apps to other languages my basic reaction to the
> addition and
> application of the xml was to think it was gratuitous --
> i.e. xml for
> the sake of xml instead of xml for the sake of meeting a
> goal. Though in
> retrospect it makes sense if you're trying to create an
> architecture
> that makes it easier to port applications to disparate
> languages.

> Isaac

> --- Hal Helms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hopefully, by the time we launch Mach-II, we'll have time
>> to write a
>> much more accessible guide. Without some sample code to
>> work with,
>> we're left with speaking in abstractions that, while
>> true, are not
>> real helpful as far as providing specifics.
>>
>> Hal Helms
>> "Java for CF Programmers" class
>> in Las Vegas, August 18-22
>> www.halhelms.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:51 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Re: Mach II
>>
>>
>> I think the general idea was that he found the info on
>> that site
>> confusing -- which is why he was asking for an "idiot's
>> guide"... I
>> don't find it surprising... the verbiage is rather
>> weighty... For
>> instance:
>>
>> This headline: Event-Based, Implicit Invocation
>> Architecture
>> on this page:
>> http://beta.fusebox.org/index.cfm?method=FuseboxMX.basicC
>> oncepts
>>
>> Note that the method is labelled "basicConcepts" ... but
>> the verbiage
>> isn't very basic... I think the average new person
>> attacking that site
>> is probably looking for something much more accessible...
>> Unfortunately
>> I don't have any good alternative verbiage off the top of
>> my head.
>>


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