Also when talking about how much of the market share CF has, you have to look at the installed base, which I know is huge. I mean hell, how many 4.5.1 installs do you think are still floating around out there. I know we have several.
Declining sales != declining market share Timothy Heald Information Systems Specialist Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2235 -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? Hey Matt L. So your assumption about the CF marketshare is based on declining revenue from CF MX at MM?? Is it not possible that CFs usage could have grown and the decline in CF MX revenue is simply because it was not readily adopted by ALOT of developers and ISPs because of the array of instability issues and just general buggines before 6.1 was released? Just a thought Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: Re: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? > Was your email a response to my message? If it is, apparently I > miscommunicated what I was trying to point. So, just to be clear, I am > suggesting that DW will focus on other languages besides CF since CF is > a declining market. > > -Matt > > On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 02:47 PM, Joshua Miller wrote: > > > Frankly, I don't care if MM focuses DW entirely on the COBOL market ... > > It's NOT CF, it's an IDE and a crappy one at that. It's an excellent > > visual tool for building websites, but it's not so hot at being a > > "programmer's IDE". It has potential as an IDE, but I personally can't > > stand it. And yes, I used it for a month and still feel the same. > > > > Aside from that, how can you expect MM to drop everyone else just > > because they own CF now? I'd prefer them to keep making money so they > > can keep developing CF. They have to compete with the other offerings > > out there - GoLive, FrontPage, VisualStudio, etc. You run a business > > right? Would you drop all your old customers across several markets > > because you got some new ones in one small market who screamed a lot? > > > > There's no reason to turn DWMX into a CF-only tool - how many people > > out > > there ONLY write CF? How successful do you think Macromedia would be if > > they applied that kind of myopic principal to all of their products? > > > > Joshua Miller > > Head Programmer / IT Manager > > Garrison Enterprises Inc. > > www.garrisonenterprises.net > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (704) 569-0801 ext. 254 > > > > *********************************************************************** > > * > > ************* > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, > > except where the sender states them to be the views of > > Garrison Enterprises Inc. > > > > This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it > > is > > addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If > > you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any > > dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you > > have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and > > advise us by return e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *********************************************************************** > > * > > ************* > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? > > > > > >> Granted, I pretty much stopped using DW when MX rolled out, but lots > >> of people love it. You can't expect MM to stop schmoozing it's > >> pre-existing customer base and ONLY focus on CF. Seriously now, you > >> don't want all those ASP and PHP folks spending their money somewhere > >> else - the beauty > >> of it is that all of those people who buy DW and use it to code PHP > > and > >> ASP are contributing to the future of MM and CF with their funds. > >> > > I disagree with the above statement. The market for ASP and PHP is > > growing, while the CF market is shrinking. Certainly, there is reason > > right now for Macromedia to support ASP, PHP, and CF, but at what point > > does the size of each respective market force MM to focus DW on only > > the largest markets, namely ASP and PHP? > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.MontaraSoftware.com > > (888) 408-0900 x901 > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
