This is off-topic (and extremely hypothetical until Microsoft and the 
W3C actually announce something official!) - can you please move it to 
cf-community!!

On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 10:02 US/Pacific, Kevin Graeme wrote:

> Another bit of possible prior art that I keep wondering about is 
> Apple's
> Hypercard and XCMDs.
>
> Hypercard is one of the foundation examples of hypertext. XCMD stands 
> for
> "eXternal CoMmanD". It was a way to incorporate any external media or
> datasource into the hypertext document. That included QuickTime video 
> as
> well as network databases. I recall a project that was built tying 
> Oracle
> into Hypercard feeding the page content and allowing people to do 
> queries.
> Hmm.
>
> Also, Gopher even had some of this. It was a distributed hypertext 
> medium
> that could launch media clips as well.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:00 AM
> Subject: RE: No so good news
>
>
>> Prior art found perhaps?
>>
>> http://www.ozzie.net/blog/stories/2003/09/12/savingTheBrowser.html
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:51 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: No so good news
>>
>>
>> Jim Davis wrote:
>>
>>> No problem.  It's just that some people are taking this as an "MS
>>> finally gets theirs" situation when the ramifications are
>>> (unfortunately) really much larger than that.
>>>
>>> I'm waiting for the definition of "browser" to come up - any 
>>> hyper-text
>>> system (CD ROM encyclopedias, help systems, computer assisted 
>>> training,
>>> etc) may be affected by this.
>>
>> Any hypertext system capable of network operation is affected by
>> it. The text of the patent is quite clear (and entertaining).
>>
>>
>>> I fully expect it to be thrown out in a higher court
>>
>> I don't. The only conceivable reason for it being thrown out is
>> prior art. I fully expect Microsoft to be capable of finding
>> that, so I presume it doesn't exist.
>>
>> What might happen is that a court orders Eolas to license the
>> technology under non-discriminating conditions. But they should
>> be willing to do so anyway, they don't compete with browser
>> makers so selling/licensing the patent is the only way to make
>> money from it.
>>
>> Jochem

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