> However it's riduculous to compare those versions to the modern 
versions: remembe what ELSE was available then?  NOTHING was very good 
at the time (well, except for Perl, I suppose). WebPlus a poor CF clone, 
Java was so much in it's infancy you couldn't really build squat (except 
for memory-leak-ridden applets), ASP was promising but had some SEVERE 
problems of it's own. 
 
Of course it's ridiculous.  But it's still happening.  I know some people 
that still won't go near CF with a ten foot pole because of their 
experiences back in the 3-4 days. 
 
  
> Compared to what was available at the time CF 3 and 4 were actually 
about evenly placed, I think.  We built some damn fine applications on 
them (actually we built some damn fine applications on versions 1.5 and 
2 as well). 
 
Actually I thought CF3 was light years ahead of everything else at the time. 
CF 4 was unstable to the point of being unusable, CF4.0.1 solved a lot of 
those problems though.  CF4.5 finally fixed everything else, and CF5 was 
quite nice. 
 
  
> I agree that people seem to be carrying outdated impressions of CF - but 
why just CF?  You rarely hear people complaining about ASP's threading 
model (which inversion 1.0 REALLY sucked) but I still hear people 
spouting off that CF isn't multi-threaded (it is, of course and has been 
for years) or that it can't handle any significant load (it's been able 
to since 4) or that it lacks some other basic neccesity that it's 
featured for years (like structured exception handling, recursion, 
custom functions, etc). 
  
> I'm not sure why this is, but it definately is a problem. 
 
I think MM needs to do some better marketing around the better stability of 
CFMX.  As for the other features, I've never ever seen any sort of marketing 
around the better language features that later versions of CF had, even from 
Allaire. 
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