doesn't apply at all, and I wouldn't try make that argument. I know there
are people who don't subscribe to the integration argument (or, rather, who
see more value in non-integrated solutions). That's fine, I've never claimed
that BlueDragon is the right solution for everyone in all circumstances, and
we make the Java editions of BlueDragon for people who prefer Java-based
solutions.
However, for people who do see value in integration, and who have chosen
Microsoft as their sole or primary vendor for Windows, SQL Server, etc.,
then I would make the argument that BlueDragon.NET is the best solution for
running CFML on that stack, rather than a Java-based solution.
I don't see it as my job to convince people that they should run Windows
versus Linux versus Mac OS X, or .NET versus Java, or to use SQL Server
versus Oracle versus MySQL. My job (rather, my company's job) is to provide
them the most flexibility and the best possible CFML solution for whatever
stack they choose to run on, and I think we're succeeding. Again, we're
giving you flexibility and enhancing your freedom to chose the technology
that suits you best--instead of saying, "Oh, no, you can only use Java
because we think it's better than .NET," or, "Sure, you can run on Mac OS X,
but we're not going to support it."
BTW, back to your point about Oracle JDBC drivers, you might be interested
to know that BlueDragon ships with the Oracle 10g drivers, with full support
for all features, including REF CURSORS. CFMX allows you to install the
Oracle driver, but doesn't support REF CURSORS:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18344.htm
So, if you think Oracle's JDBC drivers are always better than a
third-party's driver, then I guess that points you once again towards
BlueDragon. Or, if you think a third-party (DataDirect) can build better
drivers than Oracle, then I guess you'll have to concede that it's at least
possible that Microsoft can build an ADO.NET driver that's better than the
Oracle JDBC driver.
On the other hand, that's not completely the end of the story, since Oracle
also builds their own ADO.NET driver, and DataDirect also creates an ADO.NET
driver for Oracle. If you're interested in using either of these with
BlueDragon.NET let me know.
Cheers,
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
________________________________
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ms to no longer supporting msjvm
> further discussion. Do you really think a JDBC driver from
DataDirect is
> going to provide better integration and performance with SQL
Server 2005
> than ADO.NET?
Is ADO.NET going to provide better integration and performance with
Oracle 10g then Oracle's own JDBC drivers?
Not to knock BD's .NET version, which I think is a great idea, but
integration is not always a good thing. Infact more times than not,
its a very bad thing. Right now I have to manage an entire intranet
that was 'tightly' integrated with MS products from ActiveDirectory
to
SQL... and its a nightmare. The system is so shaky that if any if
the
'integration' fails... then entire system goes down.
Needless to say its being ported to J2EE.
-Adam
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