> [quote]Well, actually, have you checked out ASP.NET > 2.0[/quote] no not really and i wont until billy comes over > and sucks a fart outta my azz and refunds me all the money > hes ripped me off for! haha Luckily, i dont have to work for > anyone, especially where'd i'd be in a position to have to > support some crap azz'd company like m$.
Everyone works for someone - if you're your own boss, you work for your customers, right? If you can give your customers a better deal using a product from company XYZ rather than company ABC, but you choose not to because you fell that "Billy ripped you off", you may well get fired if you know what I mean. > sure maybe the stuff is good and great but i also have a > choice and my choice is to give my devotion to a decent > company..aka MM and i dont use anything that that the others > have that cfm doesnt but i am also a salesman and selling cfm > aint that hard! If you're looking for decency within a publicly traded company, you're wasting your time. What makes Macromedia good is the quality of their products. To the extent that there are better products available, you'd be foolish to stick with Macromedia because they're "decent", whatever that means. Personally, I think that for most web development tasks, Macromedia tools are better than their competition, and I choose to use their tools as a result. But they don't have my devotion for one minute, let me tell you. Save your devotion for Mom and apple pie; it's not a wise business practice. I choose to use their tools because they're better, and I can do better things for my customers with their tools. I'm confident that they're going in the right direction with their development, especially with Breeze, Flex and Blackstone. But that doesn't mean that I don't want to know what else is out there, and it doesn't mean that for some applications there aren't better solutions. > now come on dave, i didnt ever say u couldnt use other things > to connect to those. Hell, if u could pop out a turd with > info in it, flash could probably get the info out! That wasnt > what i was saying at all. now was flex and remoting built around > cfm? U BETCHA! and u cant say it wasnt, sure u can use other things > too but flash w/remoting, and flex where really built around using > cfm as the backend. Watch the vids on MM they even say so, then > look at it. Do you think you can do without so many ass references? I like ass references as much as the next guy, maybe more, but this is probably not the best place for them. In any case, I'm incapable of producing turds that are well-formed, in the XML sense of the term. Anyway, I defy you to point out where anyone from Macromedia says that either Flex or Flash Remoting were built around CF as the back end. CFMX comes with Flash Remoting because Flash Remoting is a Java server application, not because there's anything special about using CFMX with Flash Remoting as opposed to using any J2EE application with Flash Remoting. If you buy a standalone JRun license, you get Flash Remoting. > flex~ same almost, sure u can use anything to get data in but > it was made to really work with cfml and maybe thats why u > can run flex straight within your cfml code. as far as i know > you cant do that with the others right? Sure you can! Flex code is simply a declarative language expressed using XML, so you can generate Flex code with JSP/servlets, I'd guess. It's worth pointing out that, with a default install of both CFMX and Flex on top of JRun, neither works directly with the other as they get installed into separate JRun servers. You have to install them both within the same JRun server (requiring a decent amount of futzing with text configuration files) to get this effect, I think. I suspect that most Flex customers are not CFMX customers, either. The Flex course that Macromedia offers doesn't even mention using Flex with CFMX, if I recall correctly. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:184750 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
