Naturally, as with any programming decision there is a tradeoff. In my
experience, unless you have a very specific performance requirement,
the benefits of a framework in terms of maintainability,
standardization, and team development outweigh the very small
performance hit.

That said, of course Simon is correct. A well-designed object model
will work just fine with Fusebox, Mach-II, some other framework, or no
framework at all.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:55:03 +0000, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps
> in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
> proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want
> to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith
> Member of Team Macromedia
> Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
> Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
> Blog - http://www.horwith.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Brian Kotek wrote:
> 
> >It might help to note that many of the same principles of OO
> >development with CFCs can be applied using Fusebox 4 as well as
> >Mach-II. People are starting to build fully abstracted object models
> >with CFCs. When they're built correctly, you can take that object
> >model and use it with Mach-II or Fusebox 4 (or both) without much
> >effort. The only thing that changes is the "bridge" between the
> >framework and the object model. In Mach-II, this bridge is the
> >Listener. In Fusebox, it is often a set of application-scoped manager
> >CFCs that take calls from the framework and feed them to your business
> >model CFCs.
> >
> >I guess the point is, you can start honing your OO skills within
> >Fusebox 4 and then whenever you feel like it give Mach-II a try.
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:32:40 -0400, Ali Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Thanks Sean,
> >>And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.
> >>
> >>I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
> >>that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the 
> >>Mach-II code and understand it a little better.
> >>
> >>Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a 
> >>lot more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on 
> >>your site.
> >>
> >>Ali
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:56:43 -0400, Ali Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole thing.  I still can't figure out
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>how to define listeners and events, in a way that makes sense for the
> >>>applications I write and work on.
> >>>
> >>>Perhaps the story of my migration from FB3 to Mach II will help you?
> >>>
> >>>http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machiirewrite
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>For now I'll probably stick to Fusebox 4, and troll the lists you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>mentioned to see if I get struck by lightning and it all makes sense
> >>>to me :)
> >>>
> >>>Well, that's certainly a good approach if you're not really
> >>>comfortable with the whole OO thing... and I think Fusebox 4.1 is a
> >>>great framework to use, BTW.
> >>>--
> >>>Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
> >>>Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
> >>>Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
> >>>Got Gmail? -- I have 1 invite
> >>>
> >>>"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> >>>-- Margaret
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Atwood
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

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