On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 00:24:38 -0500, Jim Davis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As Sean said Apache has its share of patches for security issues well.  But
> whether or not Apache (a server-side, presumably managed system) is more or
> less secure doesn't really enter into it.

They do release a lot of patches and there are quite a few security
bulletins; however, not all apply to all systems for example this came
in today:

Vendor: Apache Software Foundation

    A vulnerability was reported in Apache running on an Apple HFS+
    filesystem.  A remote user may be able to directly access file data
    or resource fork contents.

    Impact: Disclosure of system information

    Alert: http://securitytracker.com/alerts/2004/Dec/1012416.html

I don't run apache on OSX so this doesn't apply to me. Not to mention
_Remote Exploits_ are of far greater concern then local exploits...

Anyway the only point was that if the argument that greater usage =
greater / more deadly exploits were valid then apache would be
riddled... which it is not.

> The question is whether or not FireFox in mass use would reduce spyware -
> I'm not sure it would.  It very well might - I just don't know.

IE installs software without your consent - so yes it would reduce it
(using logic and experience not stats). After I install firefox on
systems and run spybot a month or two later there isn't any spyware.

> But I assume, as we've seen for the past 10 years, that malware writers will
> continue to attack the largest installed base as a preference.  When/if
> FireFox (or some other browser) becomes a big enough target it will be
> attacked as well.

See there's that its the largest install base thing again...

The main problem I think is that IE hooks right into your OS - the
thing the Department of justice told MS not to do... of course why
listen to them eh... - I understand change is hard, and we are not
really getting anywhere - you're not convincing me, and I am not
convincing you

Cheers Jim

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