>> Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch." 

Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
can't do enough?

Sorry, that argument is just plain silly. No single language or tool does it
all, nor should it. That's why you get to mix tools and languages and
technologies.

>> I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for
>> developers to develop.

Correct. But depending on what you are building you may need to step beyond
CF. That is not a limitation, it is good design. Why do you think we
introduced the ability to extend CF (originally using C/C++) back in CF2 in
1996?

>From C, then COM, then Java, then CORBA, then more Java, then SOAP ... do
you see a pattern? I have been saying this for years, and I'll keep saying
it, the best CF apps are the ones not written purely in CF, and the most
important part of CF development is knowing when not to use CF (heck, I
wrote a column on this over 5 years ago!).

Hummm, why do I suspect that those who complain most about CF not scaling
are the ones violating this basic concept?

--- Ben





-----Original Message-----
From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCORRRRN!!

> If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
> 
> and call the java code from a CFML template.

Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch."

I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to
develop.  And everything else is hard/takes longer/is more expensive.  So
why do I want to use something hard like Java to do something in CF?



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