> Well Eclipse can do most any kind of file so it is a single tool just > like you want. I use it for Java, JSP, CFML, C++, XML, PHP, and SQL > almost daily. > > But the CFEclipse part is just for cfml. There is a C# > plug-in, a XML plug-in, a regular expression plugin, an xpath plugin > (the list goes on and on and on). The reason eclipse is so cool is > that the work is broken up between the different plugins - meaning no > one plugin does everything.
For some of us, I think the abstraction between Eclipse the SDK and Eclipse the IDE is not a very meaningful one in the practical sense. Certainly, we like the idea of an editor that can be extended with commercial and open source third party plug-ins. However, if we can't get the various plug-ins installed -- those we happen to consider necessary -- Eclipse is not very useful to us. I can't speak for Mike, but I've had a great deal of difficulty adding support for many of the languages and applications that I routinely use. Those languages include CFML, ASP, SQL, HTML, JavaScript/Jscript/ActionScript, XML, Java, and VBScript. Though I've found individual plug-ins for each, I have yet to get support for all of these languages installed and working simultaneously. By that I mean that every time I install Eclipse (about 10 attempts so far or three different computers), I download various plug-ins. Several of the plug-ins are recommended on the CFEclipse page. Invariably, one or two of the plug-ins causes issues, though it seems to be different plug-ins each time, which leads me to believe that the install order has something to do with it. I've started keeping local copies of various versions of each plug-in. I try to store them by whether or not they seem to play well with the other plug-ins I have installed. Still, I haven't quite achieved a stable, functional Eclipse. For reference, the plug-ins that I've tried recently include: - cfecplise - dbedit, dbexplorer, and jfacedb and quantum for database connectivity - espell for spell checking - eclipsetidy - csseditor for CSS - logwatcher - subclipse for Subversion - xmlbuddy and xmleditor for XML - jseditor for JavaScript - eclipsecolorer for classic ASP and various other languages Many of these plug-ins are still at a pre-version 1 release state. In fact, most Eclipse plug-ins in general seem to be pre-version 1. Others haven't been around for a very long time or were just recently ported Eclipse 3. So, maybe this is all to be expected. Nevertheless, finding a working combination of plug-ins for Eclipse can be a long tedious process for some of us. Anyway, I think Eclipse is a great idea, and I really -- really -- like the work going into CFEclipse. Unfortunately, I'm not able to use Eclipse for my daily tasks quite yet. But, if the rate of progress on just the CFEclipse plug-in is any sign, I have a hunch that this time next year, I'll have a radically different opinion. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188150 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
