> 2). IMHO their getting to messy, to bloated, losing focus and > the politics that are natural with the big company with large > differsified product lines competing for limited resources > has with out a doubt stiffled the development of CF IDE. Big > time.
Really? I think they're more focused than I can ever remember them being. As much as I like CF, it's not their best or most important product. There are alternatives to CF that aren't that bad. The thing that Macromedia has that no one else has is Flash. There's nothing else like it right now, and it's the sensible focus of their business. All of their new server products take advantage of it, giving them product synergy like they've never had before. > 3). As for CFEclipse, our team knew that we were being > underserved by MM and after discovering CFEclipse we realized > just how much so. Now, at least for me, it's difficult to > really respect the ColdFusion Brand. Notwithstanding the > fantastic advances with the CFMX server, they pretty much > left us out in the cold. I don't really understand this at all. If you don't like Dreamweaver, that's fine. No one is forcing you to use it. The beauty of working with server-side products like CF is that you can use any development tools you want to write your programs. What does any of this have to do with "respecting the ColdFusion Brand"? > 4). The whole MM promise of RIA development with Flash and > Coldfusion. Remember that. OK who's doing that? We are. > Somebody over at MM got too excited and decided to introduce > a new product line: Flex. Good idea we needed an easier > development tool for RIA projects but Flex, for CF > developers, Who's kidding who? I feel comfortable saying that > Flex is consider by most CF developers as a new and different > product line that MM offers. Just like Breeze, Contribute, > Authorware, Robo, there not really for us. RIA was suppose > to be the fruits of CF and Flash, not a new thing in and of > itself. Well, Flex IS a new and different product line. It's exponentially easier to do Flash development with Flex than with Flash Remoting and CF by themselves. Are you saying they should've let us continue to work harder than we needed to build Flash RIAs? You can keep developing RIAs with CF and Flash Remoting if you like - there's nothing to stop you. But you're right. These products aren't specifically for CF developers. They're for people who want to do the kinds of things that these products let you do. What's wrong with that? Macromedia's job isn't really to make CF programmers happy, it's to make good, useful products. Breeze, Contribute, Captivate - these products are very good at what they do. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:190244 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
