He made a well argumented comment, don't shoot him immediately for it.
Management here said exactly the same as he did :)

What he meant is that competition in that part of the market is so high,
it is virtually impossible to compete. Besides the .NET shares, the PHP
share in the lower end market is really high. PHP started as a simple
language, but evolved into a stable and robust language with the same
capabilities as it's competitors. 

And once you have worked with PHP the unique selling point of ColdFusion
"development speed" doesn't matter, because you can develop as fast in
PHP as in ColdFusion :) What will matter, is the level of functionality
you can give developers to compete with. Featuresets of competitors are
pretty huge these days, and ColdFusion has some things others don't
have, but the same thing counts for those competitors.

You might ask yourself the question, what am I going to respond to a
customer saying "Why would I pay for ColdFusion if I can get A, B, or C
for free?". Only in specific cases you can throw it on ColdFusion
specific functionality, but even then boxing up against free publicity
marketed languages is very hard for an Account Manager.

Just to clear things up :) I know this issue pops up regularly, but it
isn't something you have to put away beneath the soil. I think it needs
attention, but that attention is expensive, and requires strong product
strategy. :)


Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: maandag 7 februari 2005 18:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown

Matt Wisdom wrote:
> 
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/product_editio
ns/
> 
> It's quite clear from the breakdown of features that MM has written
off the
> "standard" edition market. 

I think you should read EVERYTHING on that page, particular the 
paragraph about Standard before making a ridiculous statement like that:

"ColdFusion MX 7 Standard is the solution for delivering a powerful 
website or application on a single server. It features all the RAD 
development capabilities of ColdFusion, powerful new features such as 
PDF and FlashPaper document generation, rich flash forms, structured 
business reporting, and more-all in an easy-to-manage configuration that

is ideal for small to medium-sized businesses."

  - Rick





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