Tom, I can agree with not moving the mail automatically, but your
second statement seems more like an excuse for a lack of oversight.

A million things can get in between CF and the SMTP server even if
they are on the same box. CF should have a setting to determine how
many times to attempt delivery. Even reliable servers have load
constraints. So one second it may be too busy to accept the message,
yet a second later it can. I see this all the time with Exchange,
which I find to be a quite reliable SMTP server.

To me it seems half-assed that you couldn't put such a minor feature
into CF considering how frequently people bring this up as a problem.
I can't count how many people I have met at conferences who have built
mass email applications who all complain about the same _defficiency_

And for future reference please don't not refer to _any_ cf developer
methods as half-assed. It's not the type of community involvement we
expect from MM.

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:50:47 -0500, Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool
> folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure.
> 
> We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP
> server.  It expects that you will have a reliable SMTP server that you can
> at least spool the mail to, and since it is written explicitly to get mail
> where you want it to go and it will take care of any transient failures.
> 
> In summary: instead of doing it half-assed, we let the expert program (and
> admin) handle it.
> 
> The right way to think of CFMail is as a "User Agent" passing mail for
> delivery.  Not as a "Mail Transport Agent".
> 
> Hope that helps clarify things.
> 
> Tom Jordahl
> Macromedia Server Development
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any
> improvement in MX 7?
> 
> Ah I see there were earlier posts.  You can't always rely on GMail's
> threading to group stuff.
> 
> Sure it would be more efficient, but a batch file in Windows can't
> make decisions based on file age without some outside help.  Don't
> know about *n*x.
> 
> A new feature would be nice, and maybe we'll get it within the next
> 2-3 years when CF8 comes out :D
> 
> --
> --mattRobertson--
> Janitor, MSB Web Systems
> mysecretbase.com
> 
> 

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