no im talking about business systems that code directly to only work on ie, thats not too tough to figure out. like farmers insurance has said that they spent millions on their agent system and that now only works with ie but they warn against using ie when browsing outside of their site. See now if farmers could use any browser they wanted it wouldnt be ie, so revenue lost, I think a lot of companies would do the same. Just like the ie dev team said on the w3c boards "why would ie go compliant? we couldnt make any money that way" As these companies are starting to learn that ie will never, ever be a good system for reg non techy users because of its connection to the os, they will start to explore other choices, its already happening, in case you havent noticed ;)
you and others are right, most ppl dont know anything about it, theres just an "e" on the desktop that means internet. But dont bother to show them something else cause what good will it do, just sit there and push your pencil.......... the one user had the best idea lol go into all your friends and families puters and delete ie and put firefox on but replace the firefox logo with a blue e and all is good ;) And if you dont think thats true about ie then please explain to me why they can't or won't make ie compliant? ---------------------------------------- From: Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:12 PM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) wow. so you're saying that MS will make IE 7 non compliant intentionally so that they don't lose money? is that because all of the users who paid for their copy of IE would switch to another browser? people aren't 'not switching' because IE is connected to the OS. the majority use IE because the majority are not 'techies' and use what's currently on the machine when they open the box and plug it in. while i don't understand your argument, i do applaud your use of the word 'lose' in the sentence 'they will lose money'. i would have bet dollars to donuts that you would have typed 'loose' :) On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:47:46 -0500, dave wrote: > any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered > "broken", any email client thats connected directly to the os should be > concidered "broken" > > so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user > interaction, so they say) its gunna be a mess. > > And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users a > real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen and > ms isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose money. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Matthew Small" > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) > > That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your > source on that? > > - Matt Small > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) > > Matthew Small wrote: > > OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no > > money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the > same. > > The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, > just > > as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to > > backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5? > > If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for > never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely > say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that. > > Jochem > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195110 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

