Well, I have to sell CF against JSP/Servlets in the company where I
work, and I don't think MM is doing *that* great a job. Most people
working in corporate IT (developers and managers) think of CF as a kind
of "kiddie toy". IMHO, MM needs to put up some serious success stories
and case studies, not only on the MM site but also on influential sites
like theserverside.com (search that site for coldfusion... friggin'
tragic).

I know from many years of personal experience that CF and CFML are one
of the fastest platforms/languages to build web applications on, and I
don't think I need to convince anybody here about that. Thing is, I get
paid by the day, so there's a limit to how long and hard I'm going to
fight when my employer wants to use more complicated technologies with
longer development times...

/t

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:53 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CFMX Development Speed
>
>On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:40:44 +0100, Micha Schopman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Even if that information could be misinterpreted, Macromedia has a
>> problem. Many businesses have strong interest Gartner and Forrester
>> research / recommendations, especially the larger organisations.
>> 
>
>Oh, I'm not suggesting by any means that Gartner and Forrester don't
>have the ears of executives at most companies (they sure have my
>boss's ear). I was just pointing out the flaw in the analyst's
>recommendation based on what was posted in the previous message.
>Having worked with ColdFusion for about 8 years now, I can tell you
>from experience that ColdFusion has always faced the stigma of being a
>"niche" product. However, I have to follow that up by saying that I
>think Macromedia has made a lot of progress since the release of
>ColdFusion MX. Are they there yet? No. But that's why Ben et al are
>seemingly constantly on the road promoting the product! ;)
>
>Regards,
>Dave.
>
>

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