CFML tags are what make programming easier, not the CF executable behind it.
Saying "use java" doesn't mean giving up the tag-based approach to web
development. Personally, I wouldn't mind if I could convert my code from cf to
jsp (using jsp tags) easily, and I sort of expect that to happen over the
coming years. CFMX is a big step in that direction.
Just as java is far better off for having it's huge set of JDK-supplier class
libraries, so would JSP be better off for having the full set of CFML tags. At
that point, what's the difference between a Java/JSP programmer and a CFML
programmer?
Just an opinion...
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Development Speed
Here is the exact wording of various parts of the September 2002 paper,
"Application Development Skill and Technology Trends":
"Gartner's analysis indicates that the use of JavaScript and VBScript will
grow by 2 percent to 3 percent a year through 2006. During the same period,
the use of Perl will be declining by the same 2 percent to 3 percent; and
the use of ColdFusion will decline 10 percent a year.
The growth of client-side scripts (i.e., JavaScript and VBScript) relates to
the fact that de facto standard technologies - Java or Microsoft - cannot
offer a competing technology for graphical user interface (GUI) development.
On the server side, both Java and Microsoft are offering powerful JSP and
ASP technologies. The latter will cause a decline in the current popularity
of Perl and ColdFusion."
"As a final word, Gartner offers IT executives and managers the following
recommendations:
.....
Align AD technology and tool strategy with Microsoft or Java - or both. The
rest have become niche areas."
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 11:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Development Speed
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:19:42 +0800, James Holmes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tha last thing I read from Gartner told business managers to migrate
> away from CF, Python etc to J2EE or .NET as the others were "niche
products."
>
Perhaps that's a misinterpreted distillation of what they really said?
If they really said that verbatim or something close, it just goes to show
the analyst's ignorance. Based on the above, they essentially said "Migrate
away from languages and move to platforms." CF is built *on top of* J2EE
standards, and .NET is just a platform upon which several languages can be
used to build applications, so it seems like they're suggesting to move from
apples to oranges.
Regards,
Dave.
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