And that is were it goes wrong with CF imo. There is no roadmap, there is not clear future, and those are all essential arguments (requirements) in selecting a product with which you can support your customers for many years. True, CF has been on the market for 10 years, but still there was always the tension of takeovers and a stable supplier. Like many others, people love the product but it is quite unclear what the future will be. If you compare this to other products, PHP has a roadmap, Java has a roadmap, ASP.NET has a roadmap. Whereas Java and Microsoft are just more easier to sell for more money by account managers. Throw in Microsoft and you see twinkling eyes, they don't even know what you are talking about but the name Microsoft does it. Pretty stupid, but unfortunately that is how the market works. Combine that with some outsourcing in India (20x cheaper) or Rumenia (4x cheaper) and the developer versus money is a closed discussion. Maybe .... we might see a totally free ColdFusion *wink* allowing a much larger amount of people to develop CF applications. It takes some niche away from the product, but it sure as hell would spice up the usage because of its easy acceptance by developers. I don't know any sales numbers for CF, but if Adobe might look at the product as a free gift product we might have some fun in a short amount of time.
________________________________ From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/18/2005 7:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?! I have been a proponent of CF for a long time. However I recently was hired to work for a gaming (gambling) Hotel in LV and I will not bring CF with me. In the past 4 years CF has been moved around far too much. I will not work with a product that I feel may not be here from one day to the next especially when that amount of money is being moved. This isn't anything new, but hearing today's news that was the point the Ivory Tower fell. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?! On Monday 18 April 2005 09:47, Connie DeCinko wrote: > I think he was just looking for an excuse, any excuse to ditch CF. Now he > thinks he has it. Whereas in our office we'll be migrating from CF to PHP over the next few months. But that's been in the works for over a year now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203368 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

