Yeah, my understanding is also that MM put in some work before the release of CF7 to get CF7 and Flash 7 on the approved list for NMCI (Navy-Marine Corps Initiative) so I think that sort of work by MM will go a long way to get more government and military sites using MM technologies. That's what Ben and the MM crew told us when they did a visit during the Blackstone evangelism tour last year. John
________________________________ From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 3:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Based on my experience: > > One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If > I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a "ColdFusion is > inherently insecure" lecture from some manager with a self-assumed > programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy > Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web > applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* > know that the mindset of "If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure" > is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as > secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I > feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. > > I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government > contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- > whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who > told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he > didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his > opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've > encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and > configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've > encountered still regard CF as a toy. > > Matt Osbun > Web Developer > Health Systems, International > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? > > To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, > how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more > attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a > "keep it alive" product. > > Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed > more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core > business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, > would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF > with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF > even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a "niche > product" ? > > Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free > standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing > the sales? > > Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. > > Micha > > ________________________________ > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? > > > Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think > again ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > phone: 250.480.0642 > fax: 250.480.1264 > cell: 250.920.8830 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205448 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
