> What makes any of this a "true" education? > I have 3 medical degrees, do you really think to me this > stuff would make an "education"?
I don't see how that's relevant, exactly, but any profession has basic foundational knowledge that is really required for a full understanding of the profession. Having three medical degrees, would you say that I could be just as knowledgeable about medicine by spending lots of time on WebMD reading what symptoms correspond with what problems? I would hope not. Software engineering, programming, has this sort of foundational knowledge just like any other profession. Speaking as someone who approached programming from a non-professional background, I can't begin to tell you how many conceptual hurdles I had to cross to learn basic CS concepts that any first-year CS student would know. I work with a bunch of CS graduates, and if it weren't for that, I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing. In my experience reviewing others' CF applications, I've found this to be a common problem with CF programmers. They often don't know what the hell they're doing! CF makes it so easy to do the easy things, that people just plow ahead with the hard things without any sort of understanding about what they're doing. Of course, I don't mean to tar all CF programmers with this brush, but I can only say I've made a lot of money reviewing and fixing CF applications built by people with no CS background. > That makes java and OOP kids play and just has about as much > to do with my comments as yours back at mine. > Doesn't matter what "we" think if it puts food on someones table. Sure it does. During the boom, people could take a three-day introductory CF course, start programming, and rake in the dough without knowing what they were doing. Where are those folks now? They're not putting food on their tables by writing CF, I can tell you that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205510 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
