Thanks for the input, Sean.  I sincerely appreciate your experience and
advice.

It seems that everyone sees a different part of Plum as its main focus.
Some think of Plum primarily as a code generator; others think of it as a
way to automate the admin side of a site; and some think of it as a way to
organize code.  While it does those things, I'm hoping to focus it more as a
framework upon which to build applications.  We've taken a lot of advice
from a lot of folks, and we're making some important changes to the core
framework that we've learned from in V1.0 and the earlier betas.

Now all we have to do is find the time to implement it! :)

PS-- If you have time at CFUNITED, David and I would love to buy you a beer.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?


> On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How would you feel if we could get Plum working with MySQL under Mono?
>
> The UI is likely to be the biggest problem since that's the least
> portable part of a .NET app at the moment. That was the message at the
> SD West talk in March about Mono. Given the weird dependencies on the
> UI libraries, I'm not sure that porting Plum to Mono would gain you
> any new converts - not everyone wants to run Mono either - but it
> would almost certainly be a lot of work.
>
> > don't know how compatible it will be with Mono, but that won't matter if
> > there is still political resentment over Plum being built using the .NET
> > Framework.
>
> If Plum had been available for my platforms, I would have been
> interested in trying it but having looked at a generated project (that
> another tester sent me to look at), I think I can be fairly certain
> that Plum would not be appropriate for the workflow here and the sort
> of applications we build. The database CRUD stuff is just too small a
> part of most of our apps to make Plum worthwhile for us, I think.
>
> It's an interesting product with good potential market. Ironically,
> I'd probably find it less controversial if it were a commercial
> product rather than being pitched as a free IDE (OK, you backed away
> from that one) or a free framework...
> -- 
> Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
> Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/
> Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away!
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
> 

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