I didn't quite understand your question, but I'll try and answer anyway. ;)
Frameworks are just pieces of code to help you do "something" in your code. Fusebox, Mach-II, and Model-Glue are all structure frameworks; they provide a skeleton from which to hang you application code, and take care of the "linking stuff together" part. You can have frameworks that do other things like caching, entity persistance, etc. Methodologies are a collection of programing standards that might be using a specific framework, following a certain design procedure (like FLiP), certain documentation requirements etc. Percieved development speed is governed by the methodology, not a framework. Using a framework requires more skill to code (or at least more knowledge - you have to understand the framework), but also makes coding faster, maintenance easier, and aids collaboration between developers. 100% separation between MVC is not really possible, in my view. You can get really close, but your view HAS to have some coupling with your controller. The model, however, can (and should) be entirely abstracted away from the controller (and MUST NEVER touch the views). A prime example is an app with flash and HTML interfaces. Same model, entirely separate from the C and V. But the HTML C and V are bound, and the Flash C and V are bound. It's just the nature of the beast. cheers, barneyb On 8/11/05, Michel Deloux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, ok. It depends. Other question: framework and speed dev are the > same thing? Or not? I believe(my point of view) that using frameworks > make development harder to code. I'm right? It's possible to separate > 100% between M V C? > > Thanx > > MD > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214682 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

