On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, Thomas Ortega II spake thusly:
> As far as I know, there is no IT union. The demand for workers has been way
> too high, so unions have not been needed. This is just an email talking
> about the number of H-1 work visas being expanded.
<Fellow_Workers>
I know what the email is talking about, but it got me thinking about
the political pressure you could bring to bear, not to mention economic, if you
did think this was a bad thing (i dont) if there was an IT union.
I personally would be in favor of a union, since most of my family has been
union workers for several generations (mostly construction and longshoremen).
the first benefit for an IT union would be those of us who happen to be what
has been called "micro-serfs", contract workers without benefits, who are only
on contract to avoid paying us a decent wage or giving us bennies.
okay, ill get off the soapbox next
</Fellow_Workers>
>
> Here's less extreme coverage.
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-2924010.html
>
>
> >From: "William J Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: OT BUT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT...
> >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:28:06 -0400
> >
> >What in the hell is all this about????
> >
> >
> >"Please forward all Complaints to /dev/null"
> >
> >Bill Wheatley
> >Director of Development
> >AEPS INC
> >Allaire Coldfusion Consulting Partner
> >www.aeps.com
> >www.aeps2000.com
> >954-472-6684 X303
> >ICQ: 417645
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Peter Theobald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: OT BUT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT...
> >
> >
> > > Your IT skills getting a little rusty? :-)
> > >
> > > At 04:17 PM 10/3/00 -0500, Clinton Gallagher wrote:
> > > >My apology for taking this risk but...
> > > >
> > > >Death of U.S. IT Industry: Neo-Nazi Fascist
> > > >Scum Sell Out Native Sons
> > > >
> > > >BREAKING NEWS FROM CONGRESS:
> > > >
> > > >Today, the neo-nazi fascist scum - Congress - passed
> > > >into law the approval for the import of 200,000
> > > >foreign IT scabs.Each and every year for the next
> > > >three years there will be 200,000 scabs imported
> > > >into our nation to be pitted against native American
> > > >workers in the IT industry.
> > > >
> > > >Let's do some simple arithmetic even a neo-nazi
> > > >fascist scum supporter should understand...
> > > >
> > > >200,000 imported scabs / year
> > > > x 3 yrs
> > > >====================
> > > >600,000 Total Scabs in 3 years
> > > >
> > > >Assume there is one major metropolitan area in
> > > >each state. This equivocates to 3,000 scabs per
> > > >metropolitan area!!!
> > > >
> > > >These scabs can work here for 6 years.
> > > >This equivocates to:
> > > >
> > > >18 YEARS OF 600,000 SCABS ON AMERICAN SOIL!
> > > >
> > > >TOTAL DECIMATION OF THE AMERICAN
> > > > IT WORKFORCE!!!
> > > >
> > > >This move will pit native American jobs and
> > > >those of us who have worked our asses off to pay
> > > >for university degrees and then sacrifice our
> > > >days and nights and weeks and months of endless
> > > >post-graduate study and work to be successful.
> > > >
> > > >Within a year we will start getting laid off and
> > > >then the labor pimps will force people to accept
> > > >work - if there will even be a job offer - for
> > > >wages that will be reduced to those of the garbage man.
> > > >
> > > >The scabs get all their expenses paid and their taxes
> > > >are entirely different. They pay nothing for school.
> > > >They will likely pay nothing for housing for their
> > > >first year until they 'get on their feet'. The scabs
> > > >are *supposed* to be getting paid a rumored $60,000
> > > >annual salary which the neo-nazi fascist scum claim
> > > >will not undermine American jobs.
> > > >
> > > >BULLSHIT! It will mean a reduction of wages of at least
> > > >$30,000 a year or more for native American workers.
> > > >
> > > >Let's not be fools and misunderstand my simple scenario
> > > >that is not as accurate as it could be but clearly shows
> > > >the implications and furthermore it is highly likely
> > > >this will never be recinded as it will be tagged as a
> > > > 'success'
> > > >
> > > >Think about this my peers. After all, we've been smart
> > > >enough and motivated to keep this nation running and
> > > >prosperous for the last ten years and now we're all
> > > >getting flushed down the toilet by the neo-nazi fascist
> > > >scum politicians who are obviously getting paid off
> > > >with 'soft money'.
> > > >
> > > >Did your employer contribute to the corruption fund?
> > > >
> > > >I would not ordinarily spam the Usenet but this sh!t is
> > > >unreal. What's the matter with us? Why can't we organize
> > > >and resist this effort to destroy our lives, our careers
> > > >and any opportunity to have families and a life of
> > > >prosperity as a result of our merits?
> > > >
> > > >Don't forget this tonight when you listen to those
> > > >two neo-nazi fascist bastards Gore & Bush.
> > > >
> > > ><%= Clinton Gallagher
> > > > http://www.MetroMilwaukee.com/ClintonGallagher/
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