On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, BORKMAN Lee spake thusly:
> Hey guys,
> 
> Don't you foreigners have your own lists for talking politics? ;-)

nah, were rude and uncouth, and like to air our laundry right out where
everyone has to deal with it :)

> 
> Sometimes from Estonia, sometimes from Australia, rarely interested in
> America,
> Lee (Bjork) Borkman
> http://bjork.net ColdFusion Tags by Bjork
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT BUT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT...
> 
> 
> *OPINIONS FOLLOW* YOU MAY DISAGREE* THAT IS YOUR PEROGATIVE*
> 
> Traditionally there is not an IT union for several reasons:
> 
> 1) Unions began when exploited workers attempted to organize to fight the
> their exploitation. IT workers have never been exploited, as a matter of
> fact we enjoy some of the highest wages and most flexible working conditions
> in any industry. There is currently much more demand for skilled IT workers
> than there is supply of those workers. IT workers are a class that hardly
> need the protection of an organization.
> 
> 2) IT workers have always had a grass-roots "meritocracy" philosophy. In
> other words we have felt that the best opportunities should go to the most
> skilled workers regardless of other factors such as 'tenure', 'nationality',
> 'race', 'age', 'sex', or 'membership in a union'. Perhaps this is an
> outgrowth of the nature of what we do. We spend all our time looking for the
> most efficient solutions to problems, so perhaps we naturally feel that
> "jobs" should also be granted to the most efficient worker for a given task,
> and not to the one who has paid his or her union dues the longest.
> 
> 
> At 06:28 PM 10/3/00 -0400, Jon Tillman wrote:
> >While I may not take such a hard-line position about this issue, it does
> raise
> >a question to me:
> >Is there an IT union? if so, does anyone have contact info?
> >if not, why not?
> >
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