Be careful Joe, you may be speaking over Russ' head. Acronyms like 'API' are foriegn to the 'open a page in DreamWeaver/HomeSite and edit it' type of people.
I think the main point is that Joe and Russ agree on the idea that frameworks are overkill for a simple web site. However, I would make the argument that the code re-usability that frameworks encourage may make even simple websites worth doing in an OO/Framework style. It seems more than one client wants an event calendar, an email/contact database, etc. And of course an admin to control these and other content. Building stand-alone service layers for each of these types of things can make life easier and code reuse more accessible. As for the frustrated designer, I would have to wonder what Russ' view pages actually looked like. I find changing the css and layout to be easier with a framework as I'm not wading through a bunch of queries or switch statements or what not. And I'm able to reuse partial-page views more easily, so a change to something in one place affects all - this is a good thing. My 2 cents. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237237 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

