Be careful Joe, you may be speaking over Russ' head. Acronyms like 'API' are
foriegn to the 'open a page in DreamWeaver/HomeSite and edit it' type of
people.

I think the main point is that Joe and Russ agree on the idea that
frameworks are overkill for a simple web site. However, I would make the
argument that the code re-usability that frameworks encourage may make even
simple websites worth doing in an OO/Framework style. It seems more than one
client wants an event calendar, an email/contact database, etc. And of
course an admin to control these and other content. Building stand-alone
service layers for each of these types of things can make life easier and
code reuse more accessible.

As for the frustrated designer, I would have to wonder what Russ' view pages
actually looked like. I find changing the css and layout to be easier with a
framework as I'm not wading through a bunch of queries or switch statements
or what not. And I'm able to reuse partial-page views more easily, so a
change to something in one place affects all - this is a good thing.


My 2 cents.


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