> As part of my job I frequently go on site with customers that 
> need help. I see anything from code without any framework to 
> FuseBox 4, from in-house designed Fusebox look-alikes to 
> Model-Glue. Some of it implemented well, some of it implemented 
> not so well. And it is really very simple: if they use any of the 
> well known frameworks, I am productive before the morning is 
> over. If they don't, it can take who knows how long before I can 
> make heads or tails of their code. Since they don't always call 
> because all the production servers are stable and reliable I hope 
> you can imagine what the impact is if it turns out that a 
> critical application is an undocumented mess.

You seems to be implying that if you don't code with a framework you've
got undocumented, unstructured spaghetti code.  Admittedly, there is a
lot of the latter out there.  But it's also possible to write
documented, structured, and yes even OO code without using a framework.
I'm not making a value judgment for either case, just pointing out the
obvious.  ;)


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