The big benefit of using frameworks is the structure it contains.  It allows
for more efficient coding in a team environment and also heads closer to an
object oriented model.  It organizes things very well and makes it easier to
find what you are looking for in the code.  Combined with a good solid
naming convention, adding, and modifying code/functionality is a lot easier
than just putting all of your code into a single directory.  That's my take
on it.  I personally use a modified version of fusebox...I don't use the
actual fusebox tags, but I use the methodology.  I am not going to find the
tags or the ability to install the tags for fusebox wherever I go, but I can
apply the methodology to sites to make them more efficiently organized.  I
would also say that however you structure your code beyond just dumping
everything into a single directory is a methodology and framework in itself.


Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 08 June 2006 03:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?

Dave, I think you must have a browser sniffer that checks for any framework
string structures in URLs and limits your download speed - lol.  So are you
telling us that not one site using frameworks is fast??  If so can you give
some examples?

Model Glue has had some speed issues recently but Joe has spent a lot of
time tuning this and MG1.1 is a lot faster and Unity should be better still.

Now I am coming in this conversation a little late but one of the great
things I find about FWs is the scalability of them.  Unless you've spent a
lot of time implementing your own code structure/standards (personal
framework) then I'm sure you will run into issues with scaling.  Frameworks
handle this very well as they have been tried and tested.  This is just one
of the pros.

Frameworks aren't the be all and end all but they are a great starting point
for any project.  Check out what some people say about frameworks here:
http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/4/28/cfFrameworkscom-survey-results-What-
coldfusion-frameworks-are-used(more
analysis coming soon).

Nick

On 07/06/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> same connections I view everything else on, not like i use a special 
> one for cf framework sites only ;)~
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "Nathan Strutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:40 PM
> To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
>
> Dave,
>
> Chack your network connections. Switch providers if it helps. Sounds 
> to me like every site you visit is "slow."
>
> I know, I know, and i'm just kidding, but really, you've never seen a 
> speedy enough CF framework-driven or asp.net site?
>
> I've built and visited a number of each, most all quite fast (when on 
> good or local hardware). Therefore, check your connection. Maybe your 
> ISP is sending your signal through 14.4k modems. :D
>
> -nathan
>
> On 6/6/06, dave  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah that can be true and is a good point.
> > I really want to get into model-glue but I still remember something 
> > I
> read
> > on here that was said, someone said that it was slow and the 
> > responce
> was
> > yeah but it's doing so much underneath, but the user doesn't care 
> > what's underneath they want it fast.
> >
> > I'm assuming this is more or less the frameworks that use xml or so 
> > it seems but then again I really haven't seen a .net app that's fast
> either.
> >
> > ~Dave the disruptor~
> >
>
>
>
> 



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