Off the top of my head, I would calculate the costs as follows
(where I can give a reasonable estimate):
A) Windows Solution
- Windows Box: $1000 (with RAID / hardware only including monitor)
- Windows Server 2003 Web Edition: $300
- CF Standard: $1300
- IIS: $0
- MySQL: $0 (Wouldn't use SQL Server...already use MySQL and love
it)
- Additional Trimmings: $0 (Already have network AV and hardware
firewall)
- Time for setup: 8 hours max
- Total Windows Solution: $2600
B) Linux Solution
- Windows Box: $1000 (with RAID / hardware only including monitor)
- Linux OS: $0
- CF Standard: $1300
- Apache: $0
- MySQL: $0
- Additional Trimmings: $0 (Same as above)
- Time for setup: 20 hours (estimate, could be more or less, but
seems reasonable)
- Total Linux Solution: $2300
So: - Windows Solution: $2600 + 8 hours setup
- Linux Solution: $2300 + 20 hours setup
Both time estimates on setup of every are probably high, but I like to
overestimate.
But if my estimates are correct I'm looking at only $300 difference in
money, but 12 hours in time.
-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache?
" how do they expect a web application to be built with a database? "
of course they don't let you, they expect that you will now go spend tons of
mula on their db server. You know when people say that really the ms
platform isn't as free as they say? Well it's things like this that they get
ya on. It's just like .net, sure its free, IF you run it on a windows server
(which you gotta spend bucks on) and of course then you will probably run
sql server (which you gotta spend big bucks on), how does "free" look now?
outta curiosity lets say Rick sets up a few different boxes from scratch
with CURRENT systems and products, none of this "well i love windows but I
gotta run a 6 year old version of it", I mean the good stuff, current stuff.
A) windows box - with server license, coldfusion standard, iis & sql server
and add additional trimmings (like anti-virus, firewalls, etc..)...
Total Cost: $?
Montly time and maintaince: ? hours
B) Linux box - fedora, mysql or postgre, coldfusion standard, apache and
add additional trimmings (like anti-virus, firewalls, etc..)...
Total Cost: $?
Montly time and maintaince: ? hours
and any other systems?
~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~
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From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache?
I think for now I'll just setup Apache, CF7, DW8, & MySQL 5 on my laptop and
test there.
When I've completing testing, I'll set up a new server with Windows 2003
Standard or Windows 2003 Web Server as a production server.
I just did a little reading about Windows 2003 Web Server Edition and it's
curious that MS says you can't use SQL Server or even the SQL Server Express
Edition with it. The describe the Web Server Edition as being built for
developing web applications...how do they expect a web application to be
built with a database? I figure I can use MySQL on it, which I would anyway,
but they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with that limitation...
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache?
" but I could still use Win 2000 Server "
It's always nice to have to regress back 6 years to get a system of theirs
that works right, while windows 2000 was probably their best one aren't they
stopping updates to it now? Which brings up the point of if you do go with a
windows server you will be spending a whole lot of time doing updates to it
and if its a production server then you have lots of testing to do after
each update to check for compatibilty problems. You will have that on the
other os servers as well but not nearly as much.
~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~
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