I think you did over estimate on your time, to set up linux, apache, mysql and cfm (basic time frame) should only be 2 hours or so. Its the testing, loading, ect of the machines that takes time. And most of that time frame is loading linux on same as it would be to load windows on. And you will find that on either box you will end up with apache as your server, there is a reason its the most popular server.
whats this? " Windows Server 2003 Web Edition: " was that formerly know as frontpage extensions? ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache? Off the top of my head, I would calculate the costs as follows (where I can give a reasonable estimate): A) Windows Solution - Windows Box: $1000 (with RAID / hardware only including monitor) - Windows Server 2003 Web Edition: $300 - CF Standard: $1300 - IIS: $0 - MySQL: $0 (Wouldn't use SQL Server...already use MySQL and love it) - Additional Trimmings: $0 (Already have network AV and hardware firewall) - Time for setup: 8 hours max - Total Windows Solution: $2600 B) Linux Solution - Windows Box: $1000 (with RAID / hardware only including monitor) - Linux OS: $0 - CF Standard: $1300 - Apache: $0 - MySQL: $0 - Additional Trimmings: $0 (Same as above) - Time for setup: 20 hours (estimate, could be more or less, but seems reasonable) - Total Linux Solution: $2300 So: - Windows Solution: $2600 + 8 hours setup - Linux Solution: $2300 + 20 hours setup Both time estimates on setup of every are probably high, but I like to overestimate. But if my estimates are correct I'm looking at only $300 difference in money, but 12 hours in time. -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache? " how do they expect a web application to be built with a database? " of course they don't let you, they expect that you will now go spend tons of mula on their db server. You know when people say that really the ms platform isn't as free as they say? Well it's things like this that they get ya on. It's just like .net, sure its free, IF you run it on a windows server (which you gotta spend bucks on) and of course then you will probably run sql server (which you gotta spend big bucks on), how does "free" look now? outta curiosity lets say Rick sets up a few different boxes from scratch with CURRENT systems and products, none of this "well i love windows but I gotta run a 6 year old version of it", I mean the good stuff, current stuff. A) windows box - with server license, coldfusion standard, iis & sql server and add additional trimmings (like anti-virus, firewalls, etc..)... Total Cost: $? Montly time and maintaince: ? hours B) Linux box - fedora, mysql or postgre, coldfusion standard, apache and add additional trimmings (like anti-virus, firewalls, etc..)... Total Cost: $? Montly time and maintaince: ? hours and any other systems? ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Faircloth" Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache? I think for now I'll just setup Apache, CF7, DW8, & MySQL 5 on my laptop and test there. When I've completing testing, I'll set up a new server with Windows 2003 Standard or Windows 2003 Web Server as a production server. I just did a little reading about Windows 2003 Web Server Edition and it's curious that MS says you can't use SQL Server or even the SQL Server Express Edition with it. The describe the Web Server Edition as being built for developing web applications...how do they expect a web application to be built with a database? I figure I can use MySQL on it, which I would anyway, but they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with that limitation... Rick -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Don't need a Windows Server OS if using Apache? " but I could still use Win 2000 Server " It's always nice to have to regress back 6 years to get a system of theirs that works right, while windows 2000 was probably their best one aren't they stopping updates to it now? Which brings up the point of if you do go with a windows server you will be spending a whole lot of time doing updates to it and if its a production server then you have lots of testing to do after each update to check for compatibilty problems. You will have that on the other os servers as well but not nearly as much. ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244005 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
