Hmm, I can't remember ever having to ago my certs for my degrees in fact, I am not even sure where they are!
"This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: Burns, John D To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri Dec 15 19:18:56 2006 Subject: RE: Certification I strongly agree. The one other thing to point out is that it's just like college degrees and even high school diplomas. In reality, they're really not that hard to get. They don't mean you're really all that smart because I've seen plenty of morons with Masters degrees and even PhDs but it's the fact that they did it. I work in the gov't world and they base a lot on the degrees you have. I wouldn't ever claim that a CF certification will get you paid more, but in the mind of a manager (who may not know much) it probably looks pretty impressive. John Burns -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification On 12/15/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And indeed, as you said they do/can show you what you did and do not know > and are a great teaching tool but the actual cert is meaningless. "meaningless" is subjective. You and me and everyone else on this list know that the cert is meaningless when it comes to determining who is a "better" programmer. But let's ask someone who's job hunting...and a particular company has narrowed their search down to two candidates... our friend and one other person. EVERYTHING between the two is equal (years of experience, skill level, education)...except the other person has their cert, and in this instance, that is enough to tip the scales in favor of the other person, who gets the job. Ask them if it's meaningless. I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7. It's never helped me. But I don't regret having it for one simple fact. It will NEVER hurt me. -- Charlie Griefer ================================================ "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
