1) Hiding code: I mean lets take a scenario like this! I have a server,
totally secured behind a firewall, anything below the web root is
unaccesible to the IIS server. Thus I can register the cfx tags, now this is
means that I can write code to do hashing, and other calculations and nobody
can get this dll off the machine! Oh yeah it only ever will host one site!
2) Com objects are dll's, so why can I be able to create a com object to use
to do extra coding but I can't create a cfx which is also a dll. Your logic
makes no sense. If I can decompile a cfx tag then I can decompile a com
object! No!
3) Com objects have no real interaction back to CF like the cfx tag allows
it to be, so a com object is a short term solution to a large term problem.
So this is why I am looking for this ability, it would make more sense for a
MS house who already has VB skills to use these guys to write some good
cfx's..... Do I need to go on, I can come up with thousands of times when I
could have created a cfx to run faster, but I don't know Delphi, and I
haven't touched C++ in 8 years. But had to resort to cfml to write the tag!
There is a big difference between Com Objects and CFX Tags.
regards
Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
ANZ eCommerce Centre
* Ph 9273 0693
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 October 2000 15:06
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
This is a false sense of security....
While it may "hide" the code that is definately a bad approach
to "obscure" code from someone.
As anyone knows a DLL can be decompiled into assembler
and from there you can learn anything you want. On top of
that certain things about DLL's are exposed and such.
I would kind of rank that method as a bad idea for obscurity...
Sounds like a case of everything being the nail and CFX
being the hammer.
VB CFX's? Why? That is what COM is for.
There are already Java and C++ CFX's heck you can
pretty much make direct calls to Java methods as it
is. I would say they have the extensibility language choices
well made.
Why they DO need to do is extend the current funcionality
a good bit with Java and C++ CFX's so that C++ tags
can be passed more than basic strings numbers and queries
(Structs, CF arrays anyone???) I would absolutely die to have
that ability.
Where as if I want to do something in VB i can just write a quick
COM Object and plug it in with CF... :)
VB is already an easy way to extend CF I would even venture to
say its a better idea to have COM's because then they are
available as reusable components in other places... :)
Jerem
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
>On another issue CFX tags are becomming widely used for the safety of
>keeping code hidden from those who wish to decrypt. What I have been
looking
>for since V3.1 is a way to create VBasic CFX tags, I know there is support
>for C/C++/Delphi but come on Delphi is not used much and its easier to get
>VBasic guys than it is to get Delphi guys.
>
>Without starting a war, lets just allow us to create whatever we feel
>comfotable in creating these tags with, VBasci/Delphi/C++ or any other
>language people use.
>
>
>regards
>
>Andrew Scott
>Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
>ANZ eCommerce Centre
>* Ph 9273 0693
>* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 27 October 2000 00:03
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
>
>
>Cool. Again, of course we are striving towards the ultimate goal of zero
>defects, but we have to prioritize what we work on with limited resources.
>Having the developer community have input into the prioritization process
>helps us with scheduling, etc and also helps make sure you get the fixes
you
>hit everyday fixed first, early in the 5.0 Beta process.
>
>I'll take bug reports no matter what format they're in. It would obviously
>make our lives a little easier if they were entered in the Bug Reporter at
>http://beta.allaire.com/bart with reproducible cases or instructions, but
>we'll take 'em as you send 'em.
>
>Fire them at me please.
>
>If you find a new reproducible crash, at least a t-shirt is in order :)
>
>============================
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:12:10 -0700
>From: "Jaime Garza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Thanks Damon, it adds a touch of freshness to your organization. It also
>adds certain passion and exposure, so beware!
>
>I have not entered any bug in your DB, but I have been entering a group of
>things in this forum with SP2 in the subject, hoping you or somebody from
>Allaire would catch up. Would you take care of those, or do you need us to
>resubmit those in a different format? Most of mine are mostly feature
>requests. It will be nice if you just create an e-mail called
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and we send them there, and your engineers reproduce and
>categorize them for us.
>
>Hey, I have an idea! If we find something your QA staff has not found,
>would you give us a free 5.0 Professional edition?
>
>Jaime Garza
>Director of Development
>Celosis, Inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>(510) 814-3019
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