On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean...
>
> I have nothing against Fusebox at all. I think I've made that pretty clear.
> I have respect for their product, even if I don't personally use it.
>
> Your first paragraph though is the crux of the problem. Companies EXPECT
> people to work for free to get a "prize". That's wrong and it's
> unreasonable. I would never do a design for free just to get a job. What if
> someone wanted you to write an app for them just to be considered for a
> position? Would you do it?
>
> What if this was a coding contest to write the best function to do X. When I
> design websites, (I started off as a designer, before moving into
> programming by the way), I budget at least 20-30 hours. Would you be willing
> to spend 30 hours writing a function that might never even get used because
> someone elses was better?

(just to be perfectly clear...i'm not sean, but...)

It depends.  Risk vs. Reward.  If the potential reward was the job of
a lifetime... my dream job (etc etc), I'd be willing to invest some
time into writing something.

I spent more than 20-30 hours on the Blackjack contest, and lord knows
nobody's going to use my entry.  But it was fun, and I learned quite a
bit (the latter being the reason I entered in the first place).
That's actually a great example.  I didn't enter that contest for the
prize.  Didn't need the prize.  I entered because I thought that, for
me, it would be a good learning experience (and it was).

The "prize" isn't always the motivation.

-- 
Charlie Griefer

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